Harry’s Farm and Garage. Why does Harry Metcalfe hate the Grenadier?

[zvakanaka]

Try Petrol Ped on YouTube , he’s excellent and recently did a Grenadier eval.

 

[Top Cat]

I also watched the review and recalled Harry's Defender comments... I thought his opinion of the Grenadier seemed uninformed. Like he had a very cursory read of a brochure, and that was it.
I watched Harry's Bentley Bentayga review. My existing VW Touareg R V8 has maybe 90% of the Bentayga's fluffy bits ... The VW, at a fraction of the money, was a great capable drive when new but .... now, after 90K, the "clever bits" are failing.... they are not kinda Bosch generic, and is that not what we all want? Simple basic stuff that we can tinker with?

Harry's was, to my mind, a one-eyed opinion. OUR choice of a Grenadier is that it is not meant to be up there as the Bentley Bentayga with a growl, the fruits and excess of a $350K vehicle - We are here on this forum as many of us are sick of the BS of computers and button brakes. An old bloke like me cannot wait to get my Grenadier with HANDBRAKE!

Hello Tu.
Yes you are spot on! My Grenadier was ordered early as I appreciated Sir Jim's frustrations with what was on offer and his hankering for a true 4x4. I do a lot of travel in the desert parts of southern and central Australia for work and pleasure. The last thing you need is an overly complicated vehicle with lots of nice features. I have taken her (already gender stereotyped!) out on a few gentle dune runs to see how she runs and I really appreciate the handling and "feel" - I know she's going to be quirky but as I slowly equip her for the first big run, I know I have made the right choice for me, and not for some opinionated videohead. And yes, I just love pulling on that handle
The "Christening" below!

 

[lightning]

The best real world Grenadier reviews are right here on this forum....written by people who have put their own money into the vehicle and are using it for what it was designed for.

 

[Deleted member 9047666 (user closed account)]

^ ABSOLUTELY!

 

[Tazzieman]

Mentions it again in his cars of 2023 video.
Again , he isn't really suited to the vehicle. Square peg > round hole chap.

 

[[ Adam ]]

He's too soft

 

[Tazzieman]

He's still got the loaner Quartermaster. A fair amount of exposure amidst the harvesting. Beer on the tailgate.

View: https://youtu.be/v69L4ZLER8A?si=HK1g9kNskuTZJP40

 

[TanisIndependentTraders]

never heard of Harry or his hair farm,

 

[Trialmaster]

never heard of Harry or his hair farm,

I used to watch him - but all he is after is views to buy more toys. His views no longer count....in my eyes.

 

[landmannnn]

never heard of Harry or his hair farm,

You have missed nothing.

 

[Lord Ripon USA]

You have missed nothing.

Oh I don’t know.
He has an Espada with good a/c and power stirring.

 

[lightning]

lt's amazing what these people can earn when they get enough "followers" and views.
To get more "clicks" it's sometimes necessary to be controversial. Every time someone clicks on his videos to see why he didn't like the Grenadier, he earns more money.

lf he'd posted a less controversial review, he wouldn't be so near to buying his next supercar.

Forget car reviews though, if he wants "clicks" on his site he should post a video saying he doesn't like Taylor Swift. Then he could buy all the toys that he wants.

He wouldn't have any friends afterwards. Well, except for the Ferrari dealer who sells him a new 488 with the money he's made.

Secretly though, the salesperson will still hate him for disliking Taylor Swift on his channel.

So he'll actually have no friends at all.

 

[landmannnn]

Up to a point, if every member on here clicked his video he would earn about $100.

 

[Tazzieman]

lt's amazing what these people can earn when they get enough "followers" and views.

Isn't it amazing how non essential workers...entertainers...earn more than those doing real jobs.
At least Harry Metcalfe is a farmer by trade. Back in the day he just did a naughty thing and invested/laundered a farm grain storage shed loan in Evo magazine , which made him rich enough to support his farming work.
If yoy're savvy and cunning and appeal tp a wide demographic you can get millions of accolytes in your tribe!
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[Lord Ripon USA]

I am a fan of Harry in moderation. Same with Tyrell’s garage.
He runs an aspirational channel. If you aspire to touring the Alp’s in a Ferrari, then you’ll like his channel.
If you like the nitty gritty of old super cars, you’ll like Tyrell’s channel.

I have to admit I junked better Alfa’s than the one he had a new body carved for. That was criminal. He got totally suckered on the in.
It clearly was done entirely for the cameras.

 

[DoubleDoom]

We have a farm and I tested an IG over a weekend and loved it. It is replacing a 2015 Defender 90. I also tested the new Defender, that Harry likes, but I didn't (only because I found it too sanitised). And to put it in context, we have had a Disco 2, Disco 4, original defender (last of the line) and 3 Range Rovers. We should be all over the new Defender.

It will be mostly used for towing trailers over sloppy clay fields and picking up feeds and bedding and second car style usage. Tractors carry out the heavy duty stuff. And several L220s for the land management work. And for me, the IG was the perfect replacement for the Defender. However, I embrace quirks and enjoy a vehicle that makes me smile, and I don't see it just as a tool. Hence why i continued to use a old defender. I cannot imagine that Harry would use a defender/IG or whatever much differently. I see the IG is similar to the original purpose of the Discovery. i.e. very good offroad, transport stuff in the back or for towing, but can do the trip to the shops or personal use. If I wanted just land management and was just thinking of it as a tool, then Mitsubishi L200s would be cheaper. You wouldn't consider an IG or a Defender. Yet he favours the Defender. So, I suspect it's less about the job at hand and more about personal preferences, and mine is the IG. His Defender replaced a TDV8 Range Rover. So, perhaps the internal comfort and extras are higher on his list.

 

[Zimm]

We have a farm and I tested an IG over a weekend and loved it. It is replacing a 2015 Defender 90. I also tested the new Defender, that Harry likes, but I didn't (only because I found it too sanitised). And to put it in context, we have had a Disco 2, Disco 4, original defender (last of the line) and 3 Range Rovers. We should be all over the new Defender.

It will be mostly used for towing trailers over sloppy clay fields and picking up feeds and bedding and second car style usage. Tractors carry out the heavy duty stuff. And several L220s for the land management work. And for me, the IG was the perfect replacement for the Defender. However, I embrace quirks and enjoy a vehicle that makes me smile, and I don't see it just as a tool. Hence why i continued to use a old defender. I cannot imagine that Harry would use a defender/IG or whatever much differently. I see the IG is similar to the original purpose of the Discovery. i.e. very good offroad, transport stuff in the back or for towing, but can do the trip to the shops or personal use. If I wanted just land management and was just thinking of it as a tool, then Mitsubishi L200s would be cheaper. You wouldn't consider an IG or a Defender. Yet he favours the Defender. So, I suspect it's less about the job at hand and more about personal preferences, and mine is the IG. His Defender replaced a TDV8 Range Rover. So, perhaps the internal comfort and extras are higher on his list.

Having grown up on an east coast US farm, it fascinates me that any of these trucks are considered farm implements in the UK. I get the impression land ownership on that island is such that everyone is a "gentleman farmer", wearing wool turtleneck sweaters, tweed jackets, and complaining about needing more subsidies while leaning on their range rover. I can't think of one thing on our farm, a base f150 8' bed 4x4 couldn't do 2x as well for 1/2 the out the door price. I mean, I think it was Harrys Farm I was watching and laughing my ass off, as he was discussing the design difficulties of fitting tools like shovels and hand hoes into the back of new d90, and how to carry a fence post in it... like WTF???? He actaully looked at that thing, and thought, WOW, what a great rig for a farm!!! What a riot! When youre on a farm you put 4000 pounds of posts in a 2000 payload truck so as to not waste time making two trips, and when youre done you toss the shovel 30' into the bed. The trucks looks 30years old in 3 months, but amazingly, its still being used 30 years later. The only SUV's seen, were Suburbans if you had 6 kids, or IFF you were one of those that had money for your daughter to be in "dressage", as your wife was a Doctor.

I love Clarksons Farm, but I smile watching the Range rover pull little carts around. I just cant work out the business ROI on one of these for a dude with 125 acres when 50g gets an f250 crew 8' bed. It's litteraly "foriegn" to me.

 

[Tom D]

Having grown up on an east coast US farm, it fascinates me that any of these trucks are considered farm implements in the UK. I get the impression land ownership on that island is such that everyone is a "gentleman farmer", wearing wool turtleneck sweaters, tweed jackets, and complaining about needing more subsidies while leaning on their range rover. I can't think of one thing on our farm, a base f150 8' bed 4x4 couldn't do 2x as well for 1/2 the out the door price. I mean, I think it was Harrys Farm I was watching and laughing my ass off, as he was discussing the design difficulties of fitting tools like shovels and hand hoes into the back of new d90, and how to carry a fence post in it... like WTF???? He actaully looked at that thing, and thought, WOW, what a great rig for a farm!!! What a riot! When youre on a farm you put 4000 pounds of posts in a 2000 payload truck so as to not waste time making two trips, and when youre done you toss the shovel 30' into the bed. The trucks looks 30years old in 3 months, but amazingly, its still being used 30 years later. The only SUV's seen, were Suburbans if you had 6 kids, or IFF you were one of those that had money for your daughter to be in "dressage", as your wife was a Doctor.

I love Clarksons Farm, but I smile watching the Range rover pull little carts around. I just cant work out the business ROI on one of these for a dude with 125 acres when 50g gets an f250 crew 8' bed. It's litteraly "foriegn" to me.

The problem here would be when you tried to pop down to the village in the F250.. You saw that bit when he was driving the combine through the village, the F250 would be similar!
To be fair most UK farmers run a pickup truck of some kind, usually a Hilux / Dmax / Ranger, they will get abused as you describe…Harry farms in the Cotswolds so he has to have a Range Rover.

 

[lightning]

l think that Grenadier Quartermaster looks awesome.

lt wouldn't be any use for my work, but it sure looks the part. lt's great that these types of vehicles are still produced.

l do often wonder how many new Defenders Land Rover would have sold, if they'd made it more like a Grenadier.

 

[CrazyOldMan]

Having grown up on an east coast US farm, it fascinates me that any of these trucks are considered farm implements in the UK. I get the impression land ownership on that island is such that everyone is a "gentleman farmer", wearing wool turtleneck sweaters, tweed jackets, and complaining about needing more subsidies while leaning on their range rover. I can't think of one thing on our farm, a base f150 8' bed 4x4 couldn't do 2x as well for 1/2 the out the door price. I mean, I think it was Harrys Farm I was watching and laughing my ass off, as he was discussing the design difficulties of fitting tools like shovels and hand hoes into the back of new d90, and how to carry a fence post in it... like WTF???? He actaully looked at that thing, and thought, WOW, what a great rig for a farm!!! What a riot! When youre on a farm you put 4000 pounds of posts in a 2000 payload truck so as to not waste time making two trips, and when youre done you toss the shovel 30' into the bed. The trucks looks 30years old in 3 months, but amazingly, its still being used 30 years later. The only SUV's seen, were Suburbans if you had 6 kids, or IFF you were one of those that had money for your daughter to be in "dressage", as your wife was a Doctor.

I love Clarksons Farm, but I smile watching the Range rover pull little carts around. I just cant work out the business ROI on one of these for a dude with 125 acres when 50g gets an f250 crew 8' bed. It's litteraly "foriegn" to me.

Definitely a different scale - most US farmers and ranchers would say “that ain’t a trailer and that ain’t a truck.” Even the combine is a baby combine. But I don’t see trying to navigate a Chevy 3500HD dually around in the UK. My wife was even scared to drive a BMW 5-series in Ireland.