Harry’s Farm and Garage. Why does Harry Metcalfe hate the Grenadier?

[DaveB]

I have had a great love (hate) affair with my many Landrovers and still enjoy my 1968 2a restoration , but I want a strong and reliable truck to take way out bush and the Grenadier fits the bill today and for the future. Yes its quirky and I get odd looks but its what I want - JLR now have a new market just as I have a new brand. Just hurry up with the .....!@#$% Workshop Manual!!

Yes.
The manual was definitely coming out late Q3 but no sign of it yet.
They made it very clear it will not be free so don't get too excited.
No idea how much it will cost but they have said many times it will be a subscription option.
The other concern is with all the changes which model will it relate to or will there be different versions.
Then with all the updates and campaigns that causes more issues.
My vehicle is in the shop for 3 days from 16th - 18th December for 7 campaigns.

 

[landmannnn]

Personally I don't get the excitement/worry/grumbles about the workshop manual.

The steering, suspension, driveline and body fittings are just nuts and bolts which most people with mechanical experience could strip down and re-assemble on their driveway. Torque settings might be useful, but they are only critical for engine rebuilds and wheel nuts.

Interior panels are just screws and clips.

The electrical systems on modern cars are so complex that looking at the 50 pages of wiring diagrams just tells you not to touch the existing setup and just add anything from the supplied access points.

If you need a workshop manual to do an oil and filter change then you should probably pay somebody to do it for you.

Granted an engine strip down and rebuild would require a manual of some kind, but I can't image doing that myself.

The only flaw in my argument is the fancy procedure to bleed the cooling system, but the hard work by Rok_Dr covers that kind of stuff.

 

[Grenadian]

Grenadier isn’t for everybody and nor should it be. For me, the uniqueness of it, combined with back story were a compelling reason to own one. Have driven mine for nearly five weeks, it’s the heft of the thing, its capability, the engine noise (diesel of course) the subtle drive line whine, the power transfer you feel going on underneath gives it character.. every time I get in it, it makes me feel i’m really “going somewhere” as you have to engage with it. That’s missing from most vehicles nowadays..

Yes it has some niggles, it likes a drink but there’s literally nothing like it on the market.
In breeding terms it is a cross between a BMW 5 series and a Unimog - the axles are literally from a tractor… Reviews be damned….
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