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Sticking door handle button?

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Constant storms seem to have exacerbated the problem. Maybe more debris and corrosion inside the door button mechanism. Stuck buttons occurring more often now. Lubrication only delays the next occurrence.
 

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Well I was too lazy to go to the store and decided to press each door’s button 30 times or so. Must have loosened things up because no issues since. Who lnows.
I agree with you, my driver and passenger door very rarely stick now, through use. Similarly the back door is getting better. All I need to do is carry more rear seat passengers
 

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I am having trouble with the drivers side door (R/H Drive) button not popping back out.
Last week I was at an accident holding the traffic back when I had to move the car to let the ambulance in.
I opened the driver door and closed it but couldn't move the car as it went into stop mode as the door wasnt secured. I got out and fiddled with the locking mechanism and finally got the button to pop back and was able to close the door. A bit embarrassing!
Now the passenger door has started doing it.
Anyone else having this issue?
TC
 

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I am having trouble with the drivers side door (R/H Drive) button not popping back out.
Last week I was at an accident holding the traffic back when I had to move the car to let the ambulance in.
I opened the driver door and closed it but couldn't move the car as it went into stop mode as the door wasnt secured. I got out and fiddled with the locking mechanism and finally got the button to pop back and was able to close the door. A bit embarrassing!
Now the passenger door has started doing it.
Anyone else having this issue?
TC
That's a recurrent problem with quite some Grenadiers, I had it too. They place some additional rubber rings in the mechanism, but it doesn't always solve the problem
 

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Yep, I was told by agent too much grease.... apparently easy fix.... was done at agent a month ago but has returned, only one door - drivers side rear RHD. I did try silicone spray and that worked for a little while. Still sticks now and I've learnt to bump the button area hard with my hand and it pops out. Will ask for a permanent fix next service.
 

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Plain WD40, while moving the button in and out, fixed mine, and because it isn’t really a lubricant but rather a water dispersant (‘WD’) it doesn’t gum up the works with microscopic waterproof silicon residue after a few weeks.
 

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I am having trouble with the drivers side door (R/H Drive) button not popping back out.
Last week I was at an accident holding the traffic back when I had to move the car to let the ambulance in.
I opened the driver door and closed it but couldn't move the car as it went into stop mode as the door wasnt secured. I got out and fiddled with the locking mechanism and finally got the button to pop back and was able to close the door. A bit embarrassing!
Now the passenger door has started doing it.
Anyone else having this issue?
TC

Permanent (till next issue) fix = Buttons replacement (except for the driver one with the key which seems a problem to order).
Have them changed 10 days ago.

Workaround = WD40.
 

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Plain WD40, while moving the button in and out, fixed mine, and because it isn’t really a lubricant but rather a water dispersant (‘WD’) it doesn’t gum up the works with microscopic waterproof silicon residue after a few weeks.
Doesn't WD40 eventually rot rubber? That's why I use silicon or better still ptfe based spray
 

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I thought they had a fix for this with some replacement parts as I was asked if mine needed looking at when they had it in for work
 

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Graphite powder is your friend. Use a small 'tomato sauce' squeezer an shoot it in there!
 

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There is a Technical Service Bulletin which addresses this issue.

About an hour of work for each door as they have to dismantle the entire mechanic inside the door. 🤷‍♂️

So forget WD40 and other tricks.
 

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There is a Technical Service Bulletin which addresses this issue.

About an hour of work for each door as they have to dismantle the entire mechanic inside the door. 🤷‍♂️

So forget WD40 and other tricks.
Thanks for sending - actually had the door swing open on a left hand turn, with my little one in the back. Of course the alarm went off, but her scream was definitely louder! Will have this addressed next time I’m in.
 

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Doesn't WD40 eventually rot rubber? That's why I use silicon or better still ptfe based spray
I had not heard that before. So I checked with the hive mind (because everything you read on the Internet is true 🙄). But it sounds like that is true for some plastics. Apparently:
Amorphous polymers like polycarbonate, polystyrenes, and PVC are the kind that are vulnerable to WD-40-based erosion. These are the kinds of plastics you'd find in things like plastic cutlery, baby bottles, optical discs, and LCD screens. If you spray these things with WD-40, they're going to break down.
But , crystalline plastics are more resistant to erosion caused by WD-40. These include things like polypropylene, polyethylene, polyester, and nylon. This stuff is used in the creation of tougher plastic objects like laboratory-grade chairs or dishwasher-safe Tupperware.

So, I see two possibilities; 1 the plastics in our doorhandle are crystalline and it’s not doing anything but slicking stuff, OR 2 that the too tight factory seals are actually getting degraded on a microscopic level, thus making them no longer too tight.

Any real chemists like to chime in?

Full disclaimer: not a chemist!
 

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I had not heard that before. So I checked with the hive mind (because everything you read on the Internet is true 🙄). But it sounds like that is true for some plastics. Apparently:
Amorphous polymers like polycarbonate, polystyrenes, and PVC are the kind that are vulnerable to WD-40-based erosion. These are the kinds of plastics you'd find in things like plastic cutlery, baby bottles, optical discs, and LCD screens. If you spray these things with WD-40, they're going to break down.
But , crystalline plastics are more resistant to erosion caused by WD-40. These include things like polypropylene, polyethylene, polyester, and nylon. This stuff is used in the creation of tougher plastic objects like laboratory-grade chairs or dishwasher-safe Tupperware.

So, I see two possibilities; 1 the plastics in our doorhandle are crystalline and it’s not doing anything but slicking stuff, OR 2 that the too tight factory seals are actually getting degraded on a microscopic level, thus making them no longer too tight.

Any real chemists like to chime in?

Full disclaimer: not a chemist!
I'll just stick with silicone, ptfe or graphite spray to be on the safe side.
 

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My boot door lock had this issue - and only after the wife used a drive through clean!! I suspect soap being slapped into the mechanism fouled whatever grease/rings are in there and made it tacky. After about 40x presses and roughly 3 grams of graphite (the ultra-fine version for precision tools) and now working as intended. Will have to be dealt with at dealers later when I have spare time!
 
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