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Front drive shaft broken

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Add me, I found out today in the Rocky AZ landscape I need just a couple more inches and am looking into that now.
 
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Note to everyone : check your roadside assist small print, and insurance small print.
It's a costly exercise if you are stranded remote (easy to be "remote" even after short journeys in places like Tasmania)
And of course , it's an island here - and if you miss the big ferry because of delays, it's going to be awkward to say the least.
As I've said before , imagine the worst case scenario...and double it.
Then you can prepare the trip.
Hi Tazzieman, hope your troubles are all sorted? Question? What was the failure and did it get fixed under warranty? Was it the drive shaft or transfer box? How may km's had you done and did you have an Eibach lift kit added? I have one of the first QM's in Australia (May 2024 delivery) and my drive shaft has just failed just on 24k's and I had a 35mm Eibach lift kit done on it. Mine just went 'pop' doing a basic 4WD course on forest fire trails. I'm trying to see how many others have failed and if they were repaired under Warranty.

Note to everyone : check your roadside assist small print, and insurance small print.
It's a costly exercise if you are stranded remote (easy to be "remote" even after short journeys in places like Tasmania)
And of course , it's an island here - and if you miss the big ferry because of delays, it's going to be awkward to say the least.
As I've said before , imagine the worst case scenario...and double it.
Then you can prepare the trip.
 
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I think I had a similar/same issue yesterday (Sunday) in the hunter valley NSW, doing around 30-40km/hr on a dirt road, massive bang and turning thudding noise. My Ineos did have the transfer case recall and it was replaced at 15k service. Tow truck to Gosford dealer, waiting to see what they say.
Hi Gav, Swampy here from Sydney. Hope all your troubles got sorted. Question(s). Did they find the cause of the bang and thudding? Did it get repaired under warranty? Last question? Did you have a lift kit done? My QM has also failed on 6/12/24 doing a 4WD Basic training course at Lithgow. Same thing. A bang and thudding. Its in with Dealer to be 'decided if a warranty claim".
 
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What is common all the failures have been at the transfer case cv joint. Possibly not a direct drive shaft or cv fault but a driveline angle issue that is compounded by normal movements of the engine and transmission mounting and front axle. The other issue is the slip joint is not free enough or binding in one location causing excessive load on the retaining circlip in the CV every time the prop shaft extends.
Heh there NQ94 thanks for your feedback on the drive shaft failures on the IG's. Your feedback sounds like you have a bit more depth technical knowledge on this problem.? Can you share? My QM drive shaft and rear sway bar went 'kaput' on 6/12/24 in Lithgow State forest and I'm researching how common this fault is. "CrazyOldMan" in Jersey USA has a Youtube on double cardan solution learnt from similar issue with Jeeps. Thanks and Merry Christmas. Safe travels. Swamps
 
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Well, to be frank, the czech pilsner is the best, not a lager. I think Yeungling smells weird. It comes freshly skunked. I drink modello, pacifico, and czechvar.
LOL!!! Way toooo much culture for us Aussies. . . we just want ours freezing cold...
 
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There are three quite serious but distinct issues being discussed here, it would be great if they could be split off into separate topics so we can track what may be an emerging global warranty or design issue for Ineos:
1) Front drive shaft failure on unmodified vehicles where it is clearly a warranty and / or design issue.
2) Front drive shaft boot and / or connection failure on lifted or modified vehicles not warranty related.
3) Some kind of Fargo style US Mid-West vs North-East beer discussion, no design issue to see here.
Nailed the discussion points perfectly :D
 
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expeditionhq.com.au down under is both a dealer and installs lifts. I wonder what they're seeing.


Heh there 255/85 - Merry Christmas 🌲🎄. Expedition HQ in Qld Australia has done the 35mm (1 inch) Eibach Pro Lift on my Quartermaster in August 2024. I run factory 17" rims and original Ko2 tyres. Hardly a 'big lift' compared to USA standards. My Sydney INEOS dealer promotes and sells a 40mm (1.5 inch) Eibach Lift Kit and the underlying question is this: If INEOS Dealers are promoting and selling Eibach lift kits, are they not also part of the problem if there is an underlying "Drive Shaft / Cardan / CV Boot issue globally that owners aren't aware of?
OR is this now bordering on an Engineering design fault that's close to a recall or "owners Notice"?
My QM is fitted with an alloy frame with canvas (light and easy) and I have an 11mm professionally made drawer system in the back with a 40L (10.5 Gallon) water tank usually half full. Well under the 832kg (1834 lbs) payload.
MY QM driveshaft and rear sway bar failed on 6/12/24. . . driving on a basic pine forest fire trail during a 4WD Basic training course in High Range at 5km/h negotiating the last 'wheel rut' of the day.
I'm waiting on news from the dealer (who promotes and sells Eibach 40mm lift kits) if I'm covered under warranty.
So far I've researched at least 10 driveshaft failures across the globe - . . . "Houston we have a problem"
Just for the record - I love my INEOS Quartermaster and I want INEOS to be a raving success. But these issues need to be addressed especially if they are trying to push the Quartermaster as a Toyota LC79 Series contender.
 

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