Aftermarket Winch Bumper from LeTech

anand · Jun 27, 2023

Miki said:
I like the TRITTBRETT (rock sliders) especially as you can lift the car with them ....

Any true rock slider should allow you to lift the vehicle from them....

MrMike · Jun 27, 2023

Miki said:
Where will you put it ?

I will replace the existing rope with it, if it fits, if not it will be shorter.

Krabby · Jun 27, 2023

Arkaig said:
The LeTech offerings for the Gren are shown in the file attached below.

LeTech are also an INEOS sales agent in Welzheim, Germany.

I just spent a small fortune in just looking that over! So many fantastic products that look top quality. Hopefully we can get some feedback from those lucky enough to get their hands on some.

Miki · Jun 27, 2023

MrMike said:
I will replace the existing rope with it, if it fits, if not it will be shorter.

Hmmmmm, so you think the reason there is only 11M or rope on the Grenny factory/fitted winch is that Ineos are being tight ar$es and not because it's a teeny weeny drum specifaly designed to fit in a tight space under the car ?

MrMike · Jun 27, 2023

Miki said:
Hmmmmm, so you think the reason there is only 11M or rope on the Grenny factory/fitted winch is that Ineos are being tight ar$es and not because it's a teeny weeny drum specifaly designed to fit in a tight space under the car ?

The thickness of the rope is quite heavy, I haven't seen it as yet but if it is like most Red Winches there should be enough room for a reasonable length of 10mm rope, in fact if you look at the Red Winch website the "Explorer" models which are similar to the IG winch hold between 25 and 48M of rope

Explorer 2
RED Winches 11mm (7/16″) x 30M winch rope
RED Winches 12mm (1/2″) x 25M winch rope
Explorer 2 XL
RED Winches 11mm (7/16″) x 48M winch rope
RED Winches 12mm (1/2″) x 36M winch rope

Krabby · Jun 27, 2023

Arkaig said:
The LeTech offerings for the Gren are shown in the file attached below.

LeTech are also an INEOS sales agent in Welzheim, Germany.

Does it say in the description how tall the drawer system is with respect to creating a flat surface when the seats are folded down? My German is a bit nonexistent.

Arkaig · Jun 27, 2023

Krabby said:
Does it say in the description how tall the drawer system is with respect to creating a flat surface when the seats are folded down? My German is a bit nonexistent.

@Krabby Using Deepl, the relevant page translates as:

Your adventure begins with optimal order! Organise your cargo space with the LeTech drawer box! The LeTech drawer box is firmly fixed to the loading floor and offers two spacious drawers (790x430x130 mm each) with variable drawer compartments. In addition, items of luggage can be secured with the fixed lashing rails on the top of the LeTech drawer box.
This way you can keep important travel items organised and within easy reach. In addition, the LeTech drawer box forms a flat surface with the folded down seat of your Grenadier when folded down.

The cost of the drawer box excluding shipping is €1820.45 (ie c.USD$1,994.12)

DaveB · Jun 27, 2023

I have to admit that does look like a class act.
The light bar version looks better and less "over the top" to me.
It would probably make less wind noise too.
The drawer system looks really simple and adaptable, with the L-Track on top it would be easy to make a number of different interchangeable platforms very cheaply.
One for the upright fridge mount.
Plastic tub for wet & dirty stuff
I think the extra height of the rear platform would be more useable/accessible with a tow hitch step added when not towing.

Trialmaster · Jun 27, 2023

DaveB said:
I have to admit that does look like a class act.
The light bar version looks better and less "over the top" to me.
It would probably make less wind noise too.
The drawer system looks really simple and adaptable, with the L-Track on top it would be easy to make a number of different interchangeable platforms very cheaply.
One for the upright fridge mount.
Plastic tub for wet & dirty stuff
I think the extra height of the rear platform would be more useable/accessible with a tow hitch step added when not towing.

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Dave - I can't see the Grenadier stuff on LeTechs website - can you point me in the right direction?

muxmax · Jun 27, 2023

Nomad said:
Dave - I can't see the Grenadier stuff on LeTechs website - can you point me in the right direction?

They only have a PDF catalogue yet: https://lennartz-technik.de/fileadm...pekt_LeTech_Zubehoer_fuer_Ineos_Grenadier.pdf

Trialmaster · Jun 27, 2023

muxmax said:
They only have a PDF catalogue yet: https://lennartz-technik.de/fileadm...pekt_LeTech_Zubehoer_fuer_Ineos_Grenadier.pdf

Thank you!

Miki · Jun 27, 2023

MrMike said:
The thickness of the rope is quite heavy, I haven't seen it as yet but if it is like most Red Winches there should be enough room for a reasonable length of 10mm rope, in fact if you look at the Red Winch website the "Explorer" models which are similar to the IG winch hold between 25 and 48M of rope

Here we are - from the mouth of thr horse....

Hi Mike,

Many thanks for your message.
The integrated winch for the Grenadier is fitted with a 11mm x 15m rope. The useable length is slightly less but more than 11m.
Sadly due to the size of the space available for the winch in the Grenadier the space is smaller than we would have liked and this has resulted in a reduced drum size. The rope that is fitted is the maximum that you can fit to this winch in the 11mm diameter.
However while the winch line may appear short it does mean the winch is always working in the power band and while we carried winch extensions we never needed to use them for any of the vehicle integration testing that we carried out.

I hope this helps. Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.

Regards,
Neil Br*****

RED Winches Ltd

DaveB · Jun 27, 2023

Nomad said:
Dave - I can't see the Grenadier stuff on LeTechs website - can you point me in the right direction?

It is only in German language

The Grenadier: Lennartz Technik GmbH

Arkaig · Jun 27, 2023

MrMike said:
Yes, my intention is to replace it with 30m of 10mm dyneema

@MrMike - you may want to view this thread, if you missed it:

https://www.theineosforum.com/threads/australian-x-lock-winch-rope-device-group-buy.12412577/

Arkaig · Jun 27, 2023

DaveB said:
It is only in German language

The Grenadier: Lennartz Technik GmbH

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@DaveB - simply download the German pdf and upload it to Deepl to translate: Deepl

4x4offroad · Jun 27, 2023

Miki said:
Hmmmmm, so you think the reason there is only 11M or rope on the Grenny factory/fitted winch is that Ineos are being tight ar$es and not because it's a teeny weeny drum specifaly designed to fit in a tight space under the car ?

Not being tight, genuinely very little space for the winch in the modern front end that has to comply with so many pedestrian laws for safety as an OEM

minidok · Jun 27, 2023

DaveB said:
It is only in German language

The Grenadier: Lennartz Technik GmbH

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Do we have any price indication for the letech components?

DaveB · Jun 27, 2023

minidok said:
Do we have any price indication for the letech components?

They have a shop on their website but I can't see these on their yet

Arkaig · Jun 27, 2023

minidok said:
Do we have any price indication for the letech components?

A couple of prices are detailed in Posts #52 & #67 in this thread.

MrMike · Jun 28, 2023

Miki said:
Here we are - from the mouth of thr horse....

Hi Mike,

Many thanks for your message.
The integrated winch for the Grenadier is fitted with a 11mm x 15m rope. The useable length is slightly less but more than 11m.
Sadly due to the size of the space available for the winch in the Grenadier the space is smaller than we would have liked and this has resulted in a reduced drum size. The rope that is fitted is the maximum that you can fit to this winch in the 11mm diameter.
However while the winch line may appear short it does mean the winch is always working in the power band and while we carried winch extensions we never needed to use them for any of the vehicle integration testing that we carried out.

I hope this helps. Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.

Regards,
Neil Br*****

RED Winches Ltd

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