NEW GP Factor Hidden 12.5K Winch Kit - Synthetic Line

[Msnow22]

Any update on ship dates for the first batch?

 

[GPFACTOR]

Not sure which holes you mean

 

[GPFACTOR]

We are still in October, brackets will still be beginning of October (maybe end of September). Winches are definitely October but not an exact date on those yet. We are at the mercy of shipping timeframes and come up.

Any update on ship dates for the first batch?

 

[FlyersFan76]

We are still in October, brackets will still be beginning of October (maybe end of September). Winches are definitely October but not an exact date on those yet. We are at the mercy of shipping timeframes and come up.

Any sneak peaks on the bull bar that is teased on the website?

 

[Weatherman]

@GPFACTOR can you post an explanation of how the winch line could be replaced without removing the entire bumper? I understand the aesthetic advantage of a hidden winch, but I worry about replacing a winch line out on the trail after I've damaged the one on the drum.

 

[GPFACTOR]

@GPFACTOR can you post an explanation of how the winch line could be replaced without removing the entire bumper? I understand the aesthetic advantage of a hidden winch, but I worry about replacing a winch line out on the trail after I've damaged the one on the drum.

Send em an email if you can. Aj@gp-factor.com

 

[MileHigh]

Update with official weights - the factory internal mount (non winch) weighs 22lbs. Our mount with winch, fairlead, line (fully assembled) weighs 111lbs. Net weight added of 89lbs.

Is there a recommendation on different springs for the suspension, or will stock ones be OK?

 

[DenisM]

Is there a recommendation on different springs for the suspension, or will stock ones be OK?

There are several spring variants fitted to the Grenadier on the production line dependent on the options specified at the time of ordering. Vehicles ordered with winch and/or bullbar have front springs with higher rates than standard spec vehicles.
Sorry, can't exactly point to the posts but the subject has been discussed at great length elsewhere on the forum ...

 

[MileHigh]

There are several spring variants fitted to the Grenadier on the production line dependent on the options specified at the time of ordering. Vehicles ordered with winch and/or bullbar have front springs with higher rates than standard spec vehicles.
Sorry, can't exactly point to the posts but the subject has been discussed at great length elsewhere on the forum ...

That’s why I asked the question. I assume that their version would weigh similarly and thus have springs-and you’d have to add that to the ‘cost’ of the project- OR- I assume that it would be good time to get a lift in?

 

[Clark Kent]

There are several spring variants fitted to the Grenadier on the production line dependent on the options specified at the time of ordering. Vehicles ordered with winch and/or bullbar have front springs with higher rates than standard spec vehicles.
Sorry, can't exactly point to the posts but the subject has been discussed at great length elsewhere on the forum ...

I think you're referring to this chart @DenisM. This is the rear springs. I cannot find one for the fronts. Anyone have it?

 

[MileHigh]

Blue, no green, AHHHHhhhhhhhhhhh....

 

[DenisM]

I think you're referring to this chart @DenisM. This is the rear springs. I cannot find one for the fronts. Anyone have it?

Here you go Post #213 courtesy of @MrMike

Coil Springs (specs v build)

Thank you to all those that provided the data requested - all now added to table: And for those new to the thread and want to understand what the colours mean: https://www.theineosforum.com/threads/coil-springs-specs-v-build.12412069/post-1333212143 I'm not sure how feasible, but I wonder...

www.theineosforum.com

 

[MTNDOG]

That’s why I asked the question. I assume that their version would weigh similarly and thus have springs-and you’d have to add that to the ‘cost’ of the project- OR- I assume that it would be good time to get a lift in?

I asked on another thread awhile back. I'm sure GPfactor will respond with more detail, but here was the response to my initial question.

Post in thread 'Anyone have a winch recommendation' https://www.theineosforum.com/threads/anyone-have-a-winch-recommendation.12415749/post-1333286618

 

[War Daddy]

It does wire up to the factory 500amp hookup behind the

ill Try to make sure to answer all your good questions:

I'm new to the forum but was wondering what the discount code is as I'm looking at ordering several GP factor products, thanks.

 

[Commodore]

Good Morning,

IN case you dont see our vendor thread, We are proud to finally announce and release for preorder our 12.5 Hidden Winch Mount. Here's the info and dont hesistate to ask questions. ill be on here most of the day to answer. ALL ORDERS PLACED ARE PREORDERS IN THE FIRST BATCH. WE ANTICIPATE TO SHIP THE FIRST BATCH END OF SEPTEMBER - FIRST WEEK OF OCTOBER 2024. ALSO, The FORUM DISCOUNT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO USE FOR THIS DURING THE PREORDER PERIOD. WE WILL ALSO BE INCLUDING A SPECIAL GIFT INCLUDED WITH ALL PREORDERS PLACED WE WILL SHARE NEXT WEEK!

Cheers!

This kit seamlessly integrates into the original bumper shell, preserving the vehicle's stock appearance without requiring any alterations. Featuring the robust Come Up 12.5k SealSlim winch, equipped with 65ft of synthetic line (55ft usable), Increasing the length of the usable line over the factory winch by 83%, ensures you're prepared for any off-road challenge.

Included in the Kit:

GP Factor Winch Mount, Fairlead, Hardware for Installation, Come up Seal Slim 12.5 RS Winch.

Specifications for Winch Mount:

Material: Constructed from full 1/4" steel, ensuring durability and strength.
Finish: Coated with Zinc Primer and finished in textured black, providing both corrosion resistance and a sleek factory appearance.
Fairlead: Proprietary 6061-T6 2.25" thick Billet Aluminum fairlead with Type 3 Hardcoat Grey Anodized Finish
Fitment: Compatible with all Ineos Grenadier Models featuring the factory metal bumper. Maintain its original aesthetics
Winch Mounting Configuration: Foot Foward
Weight: Approx 100 lbs for winch mount and winch - (Removal of the factory internal bumper will make your net weight approx 70lbs added)

Specifications for Come Up Seal Slim 12.5 RS Winch:
*THIS WINCH IS ONLY AVAILABLE IN THIS KIT AS IT WAS SPECIFICALLY MADE TO FIT THIS KIT, VEHICLE AND PER THE SPECIFICATIONS NEEDED.

• Rated line pull: 5,670 kg / 12,500 lb single line
• Line speed ( 1st layer): 7.7 mpm / 25.3 fpm 45 A at 12V no load
  0.9 mpm / 3.0 fpm 470 A at 12V full load
• Motor: 3,730 w / 5.0 hp 12V series wound
• Gear ratio: 3-stage planetary 225:1
• Clutch (freespooling): Rotating ring gear
• Brake (outside the drum): Automatic, full load CBS (Cone Brake Structure)
• Winch construction: Aluminum die cast housings with steel drum
• Drum size: 63.5 mm x 227L mm (2.5” x 8.9”L)
• Control: Both built-in digital two way signal wireless remote control and waterproof remote with thermometric indicator LED w/ 5 m (17') cord
• Rope type: Synthetic rope
• Rope size: 65' - (55' Approx Usable)
• Mounting bolt pattern: 254 mm x 114 mm (10” x 4.5”)
• Mounting : Foot forward mounting workable
• Finish : Matte black powder-coated
  * Remark: Only foot forward mounting can meet SAE J706

This is a beautifully engineered solution but too pricy for me. Any chance you will make a winch tray that accepts a standard winch? You already have the font of the Grenadier in CAD so it shouldn’t be too difficult. Maybe have a template for cutting the top out of the factory bumper center section. Yes it wouldn’t have the winch completely hidden and that would be a trade off but it would allow the customer to use a winch that they already have or one that is less expensive.

Target a winch tray price of $1,000 which should be manageable for a welded up bracket and still allow for plenty of gross margin while expanding your market to people who won’t spend $3,500 for a winch solution. These are incremental sales and not cannibalizing the sale of your more expensive product.

 

[landmannnn]

This is a beautifully engineered solution but too pricy for me. Any chance you will make a winch tray that accepts a standard winch? You already have the font of the Grenadier in CAD so it shouldn’t be too difficult. Maybe have a template for cutting the top out of the factory bumper center section. Yes it wouldn’t have the winch completely hidden and that would be a trade off but it would allow the customer to use a winch that they already have or one that is less expensive.

Target a winch tray price of $1,000 which should be manageable for a welded up bracket and still allow for plenty of gross margin while expanding your market to people who won’t spend $3,500 for a winch solution. These are incremental sales and not cannibalizing the sale of your more expensive product.

LFD already do exactly that for almost exactly that price too. https://lfdoffroad.com/products/ine...htD3lm4y0c_y5ZsBN5FdZQLxhSnSuYwZEMW8DXEq1X4ey

 

[Commodore]

LFD already do exactly that for almost exactly that price too. https://lfdoffroad.com/products/ine...htD3lm4y0c_y5ZsBN5FdZQLxhSnSuYwZEMW8DXEq1X4ey

Thank you for the link. That will be my next purchase.

 

[landmannnn]

Thank you for the link. That will be my next purchase.

Luckily you don't have those huge plastic bumpers like we have.

 

[Commodore]

Luckily you don't have those huge plastic bumpers like we have.

Huge plastic bumpers??

 

[ADVAW8S]

Huge plastic bumpers??

EU countries have a different bumper that is better suited for pedestrians. It's large and made out of plastic.