Who is experiencing software or electrical gremlins?

Telliottaus · Jun 19, 2023

And what

AndrewW said:
Do you not get fuel panics? If I park 1:3 downhill (often do...) half a tank and 100 miles to go becomes a red "Fill up now" and 20 miles estimated. That just might survive all software updates. It's another not-a-problem.

and what is worse for me it didn't recover to what the range was. Then showed refuel now (guage showing 35%) and wouldn't start until I put a jerry can worth in... then started fine.. turns out there was still at least 15 litres in the tank but it would start. In hindsight might try and "trip" the refuelling latch and see if that resets something

Max · Jun 19, 2023

DCPU said:
Or maybe they're trolling Ineos to pull their finger out...

Am I missing something here I have not seen a review from you...can you please direct me to your first drive?...I would be interested to read it... thank you

BillyBunter · Jun 19, 2023

pioneerofthenile said:
is there any new owners that don't have any problems with their new grenadier?

I don't want to jinx it but aside from a brief error message re transmission on day one (after I had been testing the low range lever) I've had none since. Only ones are the seat belt ones when you first start up but they clear after perhaps 3 seconds so it's probably just part of the stat up check sequence. One of my daughters doesn't close the door with enough omph so we occasionally get the door open one but that is genuine.

Nick Szkiler · Jun 19, 2023

Nomad said:
Still very concerning that the messages have appeared more than once.

Someone asked the question above about Software editions - you would think these issues would be sorted prior to sale. My wife won’t accept we are in effect test customers-as the time we ignore a message could be the one we should have taken notice of!

I was told on collection that a software update in a few weeks would resolve this, but I no longer get any error messages using this technique: On starting the vehicle, foot on the brake turn the key and start immediately. Don't wait even a moment. If you switch on ignition and wait for even a couple of seconds as the display 'wakes up', error messages begin. I no longer have any error messages.

MarkH · Jun 19, 2023

Nick Szkiler said:
but I no longer get any error messages using this technique

Do they still appear during a drive?

DCPU · Jun 20, 2023

Max said:
Am I missing something here I have not seen a review from you...can you please direct me to your first drive?...I would be interested to read it... thank you

Am I missing something?

I've certainly done a first drive impressions post... it's there somewhere...

MarkH · Jun 20, 2023

DCPU said:
I've certainly done a first drive impressions post... it's there somewhere...

Max said:
Am I missing something here I have not seen a review from you...can you please direct me to your first drive?...I would be interested to read it... thank you

This?

https://www.theineosforum.com/threa...nadier-today.12411127/page-16#post-1333178641

DCPU · Jun 20, 2023

Thank you ~ I'd looked in a number of threads and failed to find it.

Boston Boy · Jun 23, 2023

A Reuters article on how vehicle quality measures are declining as more tech is added to new vehicles:

Quality of new vehicles in US declining on more tech use, study shows

Quality of new vehicles sold in the United States is declining as factors such as growing use of technology and lower build quality of certain parts are making the models more "problematic", according to automotive consultant J.D. Power.

www.reuters.com

Tazzieman · Jun 23, 2023

Why does that not surprise me?

Ever Pragmatic · Jun 23, 2023

I’ve got a new software surprise.. Earlier in the week, the odometer stopped working and zeroed itself.

Over the last few week, all but one of the bongs has gone and the one that remains is the rear door open one. It is a sensor issue which will get sorted when I get to the dealer. My lad took the picture so sorry about the angle.

Electrics aside, the mechanical bits are now well run in and the Gren is a great car to drive, and seems to be much quicker from 50 mph+..

PBD · Jun 23, 2023

I also had a new screen issue yesterday.
I was driving along and talking on the phone (apple) when it cut off. Not new you say, well I looked at the screen to see if the call was still live and it was off, blank? Came back on after about 10 more seconds but call was disconnected. Odd.

Jean Mercier · Jun 23, 2023

Ever Pragmatic said:
I’ve got a new software surprise.. Earlier in the week, the odometer stopped working and zeroed itself.

Over the last few week, all but one of the bongs has gone and the one that remains is the rear door open one. It is a sensor issue which will get sorted when I get to the dealer. My lad took the picture so sorry about the angle.

Electrics aside, the mechanical bits are now well run in and the Gren is a great car to drive, and seems to be much quicker from 50 mph+..View attachment 7817630

I had the same last week, but it didn't last, I think I even have a picture

Ever Pragmatic · Jun 23, 2023

Jean Mercier said:
I had the same last week, but it didn't last, I think I even have a picture

Good to know we’ve all got the same ghosts in the machine, it’s the adventure of Ineos ownership..

off topic I know, but every defender (old style) I pass, does a wave. They either think I’m in one, or they’re just accepting the Grenadier in to their herd..

Eric · Jun 23, 2023

Ever Pragmatic said:
Good to know we’ve all got the same ghosts in the machine, it’s the adventure of Ineos ownership..

off topic I know, but every defender (old style) I pass, does a wave. They either think I’m in one, or they’re just accepting the Grenadier in to their herd..

Or alternatively they have an eyesight problem, and should be wearing glasses..

beanohallett · Jun 23, 2023

Beormund said:
I don't seem to be getting anywhere with my faulty A/C and rear parking sensor. INEOS Customer Services tell me to contact my agent. I emailed my agent a week ago about the A/C not working and nothing - no email or return call. Not great. I'm going to have to chase up today over the phone. Also, it's a month since I collected my car and none of my accessories have been fitted yet. Usual story - absolutely loving the car, but after-sales support is about as good as the pre-sales comms/support.

Your agents wouldn't be Jardine's would they??

If so same experience here unimpressed

beanohallett · Jun 23, 2023

the list of common error messages on my grenadier. that last one is quite different !!
PDC Error

Transmission error

Power steering fail

AC Fail

Trailer light error

Ecall error

TPMS error

Gearbox in N [ whilst driving]

Air bag failure

Fuel gauge inoperative

Infotainment screen changed from RHD orientation with speedo on the right of the infotainment system to LDH orientation with the speedo now in KPH and on the left hand side of the display

Despite all of this still love it

Trialmaster · Jun 23, 2023

List very familiar- the software update can’t come soon enough.

I had camera fail today - but it was working fine.

Tazzieman · Jun 23, 2023

I'm sort of amused by all these boy crying wolf alerts as I await delivery.
Seriously if it starts , goes and stops I'll be happier than a piglet with 2 tails.

If , perchance , the dealer wants to do some sort of car computer update thingo , well I just see that as an excuse to do a road trip via the central Tassy highlands.
Maybe towing a fishing rod.

Oh & greetings from Sardinia - where somehow my suitcase has become separated from my wife's...and the Italian authorities are searching for it somewhere between Trieste and Cagliari.
Chaos - as expected.

Trialmaster · Jun 23, 2023

Tazzieman said:
I'm sort of amused by all these boy crying wolf alerts as I await delivery.
Seriously if it starts , goes and stops I'll be happier than a piglet with 2 tails.

If , perchance , the dealer wants to do some sort of car computer update thingo , well I just see that as an excuse to do a road trip via the central Tassy highlands.
Maybe towing a fishing rod.

Oh & greetings from Sardinia - where somehow my suitcase has become separated from my wife's...and the Italian authorities are searching for it somewhere between Trieste and Cagliari.
Chaos - as expected.

I think all current owners are reasonably tolerant of the false messages. Just a shame they exist as they affect the Carplay music.

I am sure by the time you get your vehicle they will be history, whether you want the messages or not.

As for Cagliari, I remember diverting into there during GW1 tanking wanking Tornados back to Germany.

Meanwhile back to Arctic Monkeys at Glastonbury.

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