Winch or not ?

[CountyV8]

Hi All
When I went for a test drive last week this was the plastic cover fitted over the winch which had to be removed with a screwdriver .
I consider this to be unacceptable to have to get out and remove 2 screws then place the cover/number plate down somewhere use the winch then put it all back , get covered in crap not good in the dark /cold .

Where has the flop up numberplate gone????

Guess what no one from Ineos had an answer.

 

[DCPU]

I guessing but it looks to me that there are two completely different setups for the winch, depending on whether it's a steel or plastic bumper.

The winch sits further back with the plastic bumper and the fairlead obviously cannot be mounted to a plastic bumper.

It would be simple to swap these screws for something like a Dzus 1/4 turn fastener to make it a tool less operation... but then you come back from shopping in the supermarket and find your numberplate missing.

 

[DedkovCZE]

I am thinking about this solution. Move it to +- 3:30 https://youtu.be/IFm1Vwl1r4Q

 

[CountyV8]

I guessing but it looks to me that there are two completely different setups for the winch, depending on whether it's a steel or plastic bumper.

The winch sits further back with the plastic bumper and the fairlead obviously cannot be mounted to a plastic bumper.

It would be simple to swap these screws for something like a Dzus 1/4 turn fastener to make it a tool less operation... but then you come back from shopping in the supermarket and find your numberplate missing.

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When the cover was eventually removed the fairlead was attached to the winch ,
The screws fitted into metal inserts in the cover very cheap and flimsy would not stand up to any work at all would break within a week for use.

 

[DCPU]

I am thinking about this solution. Move it to +- 3:30 https://youtu.be/IFm1Vwl1r4Q

I like the pivoting link, not so much this:

 

[DCPU]

When the cover was eventually removed the fairlead was attached to the winch ,
The screws fitted into metal inserts in the cover very cheap and flimsy would not stand up to any work at all would break within a week for use.

They look like what I'd call C clips or spire nuts. Not the best but usually quite robust. In this particular application I'd be move concerned about the lack of "meat" around the clip. If it does bind then additional force turns the whole clip and may twist/break the attachment place in the bumper.

 

[CountyV8]

They look like what I'd call C clips or spire nuts. Not the best but usually quite robust. In this particular application I'd be move concerned about the lack of "meat" around the clip. If it does bind then additional force turns the whole clip and may twist/break the attachment place in the bumper.

Bad design you can't be using this all day it will BREAK and certainly piss you off big time.

 

[Michael H.]

I like the pivoting link, not so much this:

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Yes. The safety breaches were scary, but at least he had gloves on.

 

[emax]

The plastic cover might be due to (EU-)regulations for pedestrians: protruding parts are afaik not allowed. The hinges protrude.

 

[CountyV8]

The plastic cover might be due to (EU-)regulations for pedestrians: protruding parts are afaik not allowed. The hinges protrude.

Last time I looked I don't live in europe

 

[bemax]

Last time I looked I don't live in europe

So where did you do your test drive? The car has obviously a number plate from Germany

 

[emax]

Last time I looked I don't live in europe

That's right. But perhaps it's not the exact version you'll finally get where you live.

 

[ECrider]

I like the pivoting link, not so much this:

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did your wife chop your balls off? nah I did it all myself

 

[CountyV8]

That's right. But perhaps it's not the exact version you'll finally get where you live.

I hope so emax I cant believe an Austrian engineer designed this solution it will break within a week and will result in more trips back to the dealer .Im in England btw.

 

[emax]

And btw: With 'EU' I meant "other than US,AU,ZA ..." etc. ;-)

I should have written 'Eu' for 'Europe', not 'EU' for 'European Union'

 

[CountyV8]

And btw: With 'EU' I meant "other than US,AU,ZA ..." etc. ;-)

I should have written 'Eu' for 'Europe', not 'EU' for 'European Union'

Most people in Uk think Europe is somewhere near France

 

[CountyV8]

Another UK test drive vehicle with the plastic winch cover.

 

[bemax]

Another UK test drive vehicle with the plastic winch cover.View attachment 7794339

It seems to me that everybody in UK gets the EU version. I guess thats hard...

 

[DCPU]

Last time I looked I don't live in europe

Is there another sensible/cost effective way to get GB type approval other than ride on the coatails of EU type approval?

 

[DedkovCZE]

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I like the pivoting link, not so much this:

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I think about version for two towing points. But you can make it variable cause you will dismount that on tarmak therefore you don't need any papers about strenght etc. You know, mid EU.