Steering wheel center?

[Skydance]

I have/had same issue w/ alignment and contacted my service person (Trevor Lilly at Mossy in-house). His response is below. Got me almost straight…

“You can do micro adjustments on your own via the steering wheel.

If you turn the wheel in the opposite direction to drive straight, turn it all the way until it stops, and continue to turn it while moving forward, it will cause it to micro adjust on its own.”

As soon as I seen this post. I went out and gave it a try . As mad as it seems, it bloody works. Probably only works for minor offset like mine. The test is for how long? So basically we all know on full steering lock, there is a tiny amount of turn still possible. Turning the opposite way resets it and works for me. Might be in head but the whining is not as loud.

I did this procedure twice and my steering is now at 12 o clock.

 

[anand]

I have/had same issue w/ alignment and contacted my service person (Trevor Lilly at Mossy in-house). His response is below. Got me almost straight…

“You can do micro adjustments on your own via the steering wheel.

If you turn the wheel in the opposite direction to drive straight, turn it all the way until it stops, and continue to turn it while moving forward, it will cause it to micro adjust on its own.”

So.... He's saying that every time someone touches the steering stops it is adjusting the steering wheel angle? I'll call that as some Dealer Jedi Mind Trickery

 

[e_k_powell]

I literally takes all of 10 minutes to loosen the nuts on the drag link collar and recenter the steering wheel. Doesn't change alignment in anyway and doesn't change how it drives, but for anyone a bit OCD and wants the steering wheel straight you need a couple of wrenches and 10 minutes of your time at most.

 

[Bradysdad]

I have had my truck for a week now and ever since I picked it up, it has pulled to the left and my steering wheel center is at about 11:30. Took it in for accessory installation today and they will check alignment and wheel centering.

The loaner they gave me drives so much better, doesn’t pull and the steering feels so much lighter. The loaner has steel wheels and BF Goodrich tires while my unit has the aluminum mags with the street tires. Could make a difference but ?????

 

[anand]

The loaner they gave me drives so much better, doesn’t pull and the steering feels so much lighter. The loaner has steel wheels and BF Goodrich tires while my unit has the aluminum mags with the street tires. Could make a difference but ?????

Does the loaner have more miles on it than yours? If so, that would make sense because the steering definitely improves with driving

 

[Bradysdad]

Does the loaner have more miles on it than yours? If so, that would make sense because the steering definitely improves with driving

Actually less miles. The loaner had ~450 and I already have 1,400 on mine.

 

[Lex]

Say what??

I can't imagine that could be correct either!!!

 

[Lex]

I have/had same issue w/ alignment and contacted my service person (Trevor Lilly at Mossy in-house). His response is below. Got me almost straight…

“You can do micro adjustments on your own via the steering wheel.

If you turn the wheel in the opposite direction to drive straight, turn it all the way until it stops, and continue to turn it while moving forward, it will cause it to micro adjust on its own.”

That can't be right!! I'm not a mechanic, and I know very little about cars, but that just sounds unimaginable.

 

[Lex]

Does the loaner have more miles on it than yours? If so, that would make sense because the steering definitely improves with driving

wow, that's nice to hear. It means they can be made to drive without pulling!! Just can't understand why my dealer (really nice dealer by the way) can't seem to get it right. I still haven't heard back from Ineos on this. Spoke to them on the phone twice last week, to the person taking notes and passing the info along. But, no call back yet for solution

 

[Lex]

I wanted to provide and update on the topic of 'brand-new Grenadier pulls to the left'. After discussing with Ineos, who confirmed the car should not pull to the left (or the right), we arranged an appointment at the dealership where, after a primary diagnosis by a master tech, we would contact Ineos for engineering support if needed. Well, after I took the master tech on a short drive, he immediately confirmed that he could see the car pulled to the left. After an alignement check, it was found the alignment was off (toe was off) causing the pull to the left. The master tech performed an alignment, and the car now drives perfectly straight. This was of a brand-new Grenadier, which had 20ish miles on it when I bought it. So, moral of the story, don't take no for an answer when you know for a fact there is an issue. Push for resolution. The dealership told me they now check all alignments on new vehicles. If true, that's a great change is procedure. Buyers should not be put in a position where they have to deal with this type of issue, and especially not be told they are wrong or that's 'just the way these cars drive', when in fact, it's not.

 

[MTNDOG]

I wanted to provide and update on the topic of 'brand-new Grenadier pulls to the left'. After discussing with Ineos, who confirmed the car should not pull to the left (or the right), we arranged an appointment at the dealership where, after a primary diagnosis by a master tech, we would contact Ineos for engineering support if needed. Well, after I took the master tech on a short drive, he immediately confirmed that he could see the car pulled to the left. After an alignement check, it was found the alignment was off (toe was off) causing the pull to the left. The master tech performed an alignment, and the car now drives perfectly straight. This was of a brand-new Grenadier, which had 20ish miles on it when I bought it. So, moral of the story, don't take no for an answer when you know for a fact there is an issue. Push for resolution. The dealership told me they now check all alignments on new vehicles. If true, that's a great change is procedure. Buyers should not be put in a position where they have to deal with this type of issue, and especially not be told they are wrong or that's 'just the way these cars drive', when in fact, it's not.

Any chance you have the before and after numbers? I'm almost sure this is my issue. Local tire shop wouldn't even look at it, because they don't have Ineos in their database. Glad they listened and got yours fixed up!

 

[Tinerfeño]

Toe-out can be checked at home with a tape measure. I don't have the official figures but 3 mm +/-1 mm from outer edge of tyre will be close enough.

 

[Lex]

Any chance you have the before and after numbers? I'm almost sure this is my issue. Local tire shop wouldn't even look at it, because they don't have Ineos in their database. Glad they listened and got yours fixed up!

Here's the before and after. As you can see, Toe was a problem. In red in the 'after' specs, you'll see the camber pushed passed Ineos' recommendations. My local dealer says that brings a little more steering stability to the Grenadier. But, the toe was clearly off, and now, it's a hell of a lot better when I'm driving. no more pull to the left, at all.