INEOS Automotive CEO says in Smoking Tire interview ADAS speed warning to be disabled in US Market

[Tenac]

God damn.. adas clicks I can deal with.. what about the power steering whine?!

HVAC that produces no heat, or if there is heat, it’s accompanied by a whistle..

Those other issues, there are no workarounds..

I'm not to well read up on these issues here on the forum but I did run into them on mine and resolved them. I didn't have the power steering whine till about 400 miles. I ran around town parked and checked the fill line it was just below min, topped it too max mark. Couple weeks later I noticed it was about below mid between the two and took it back to max and all noise is gone. No leaks just thinking the lines or system wasn't bleed correctly at factory. Now if I was smart I would have hooked up Autel and told the pump to purge and do a run in test while pouring fluid in but I did it the hard way.

Not sure if my HVAC is same issues you are talking about but I run mine in Auto now. When I first took it to auto I had the setting a little too warm ( I didn't realize you can read the temp as you turn the dial on the screen). During that time I would press from Auto on/off freaking out thinking my AC stopped working. Once at home I set temp to middle I think it was 70F. The next day I took off and realized it was all working fine and it was user issue not knowing what temp I set it too. But my heat and cool work just fine in manual mode as well. On highest setting I do notice a velocity sequel from the HVAC fan. That is just like my old square body so I might put isolation around it if I can get too it.

 

[HereinDaRockies]

I think adas is only one of those shallow issues that reviewers or test drivers can appreciate easily, thus all spot light is on it. It’s as shallow as the overwhelming emphasis on the useless toot horn

Anyone who owns the vehicle experiences other issues that easily overpower the Adas issue, in terms of intrusiveness and much more criticality, due to lack of workaround.

I seriously don’t give a f about Adas issue anymore.. other issues, yes solve them please Lynn - hvac cluster f. Inability to reset oil change reminder,

 

[anand]

It’s as shallow as the overwhelming emphasis on the useless toot horn

I find myself using the toot horn far more frequently than the regular horn

 

[Krabby]

I find myself using the toot horn far more frequently than the regular horn

To wake up people on their phones ahead of you at lights.

 

[anand]

To wake up people on their phones ahead of you at lights.

Did it twice this morning and once yesterday...

 

[Cheshire cat]

I enjoyed the interview on both sides but figured Lynn's knowledge of the vehicle was less than the collective on this forum. Did she say 37 ECU's? Should it not be in the 40's? How about the manual diff locks which are in fact electronically powered.
Only tiny details but never the less,,,,,

 

[anand]

Did she say 37 ECU's? Should it not be in the 40's?

For what it's worth I was told by one of the project leads the number was on the lower side of 20 (for a MY23)

 

[Cheshire cat]

For what it's worth I was told by one of the project leads the number was on the lower side of 20 (for a MY23)

I was recounting an article comparing the Grenadier to the new Defender which was coming in around the 100 mark for ECU's. Thought the Grenadier was around 45 but happy to stand corrected. Ultimately, Lynn's premise was correct. The Grenadier is 'back to basics', in a good way.

 

[TCMColorado]

I enjoyed the interview on both sides but figured Lynn's knowledge of the vehicle was less than the collective on this forum. Did she say 37 ECU's? Should it not be in the 40's? How about the manual diff locks which are in fact electronically powered.
Only tiny details but never the less,,,,,

I interpreted the diff lock reference as a comparison to brake vectoring traction control which so many of Ineos' competitors rely on. I don't think it was in reference to how the diff locks are actuated.

 

[Cheshire cat]

I interpreted the diff lock reference as a comparison to brake vectoring traction control which so many of Ineos' competitors rely on. I don't think it was in reference to how the diff locks are actuated.

Fully agree with you, TCM. Told you I was being too picky.

 

[HereinDaRockies]

I find myself using the toot horn far more frequently than the regular horn

It’s just a low volume horn.. so what? Lazy reviewers gravitating to the easy filler content

 

[holdmybeer]

The polite toot horn seems unnecessary. Despite best efforts, I can't seem to sneak up on cyclists because they hear my power steering whine coming.

Anyways, I really enjoyed that Lynn Calder interview. Sure, she squeezes in some canned talking points she needs to get across, but for the most part she actually answered the questions being asked. Directly. Instead of dancing around and answering a question not asked that makes her or her company look better. This is rare for well-trained management. Even more rare for a CEO.

 

[IslandFalconer]

The polite toot horn seems unnecessary. Despite best efforts, I can't seem to sneak up on cyclists because they hear my power steering whine coming.

Anyways, I really enjoyed that Lynn Calder interview. Sure, she squeezes in some canned talking points she needs to get across, but for the most part she actually answered the questions being asked. Directly. Instead of dancing around and answering a question not asked that makes her or her company look better. This is rare for well-trained management. Even more rare for a CEO.

How loud is your power steering? Mine kept getting louder. I’ve gotten multiple errors. The dealer tells me it’s “normal” yet the loaner I drive is silent. So I can’t seem to get a grip on what “normal” should sound like.

 

[Krabby]

Mine’s pretty bad but not much worse than my brother’s brand new Jeep.

 

[holdmybeer]

How loud is your power steering? Mine kept getting louder. I’ve gotten multiple errors. The dealer tells me it’s “normal” yet the loaner I drive is silent. So I can’t seem to get a grip on what “normal” should sound like.

I've never seen any lights/messages for power steering errors like that.

I'm no expert but I'm used to hearing power steering (pump? motor?) noise like this on older vehicles when the steering system is actually *doing* something, cranking the steering wheel one way or another at low speeds, not continuously at idle. The idle state is usually much quieter.

I've not heard what a new Jeep or anything else sounds like. If someone tells me there's a new model of something out there that is *louder* than a Grenadier, then I guess I'll accept that our trucks are within modern standards. As it stands, I feel like Grenadiers stand out and not in a good way.

So all I can say is the noise is always present. It's unpleasant. And when I start up the truck, onlookers have asked "what's that?!" So for a variety of reasons, I want it to be quieter. And that's all I know.

 

[IslandFalconer]

I've never seen any lights/messages for power steering errors like that.

I'm no expert but I'm used to hearing power steering (pump? motor?) noise like this on older vehicles when the steering system is actually *doing* something, cranking the steering wheel one way or another at low speeds, not continuously at idle. The idle state is usually much quieter.

I've not heard what a new Jeep or anything else sounds like. If someone tells me there's a new model of something out there that is *louder* than a Grenadier, then I guess I'll accept that our trucks are within modern standards. As it stands, I feel like Grenadiers stand out and not in a good way.

So all I can say is the noise is always present. It's unpleasant. And when I start up the truck, onlookers have asked "what's that?!" So for a variety of reasons, I want it to be quieter. And that's all I know.

I’m getting the typical “no lights on right now, we can’t replicate it” dealership line. And the next one is “sounds normal to us” but yet as I said the loaner I have is silent. So it surely can’t be that “silent” is actually unacceptable and “hear it down the street” would be considered “normal”