Grenadier vs 2024 Land Cruiser

[DaveB]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqYaE7MG-bQ

 

[Solmanic]

Is it just me, or does anyone else think the bonnet on the 2024 70 Series update looks really, really weird? The entire bonnet bulges up leaving the wipers in a deep trough at the base of the windscreen. And why did they even have to bulge it up when the motor is so much smaller?

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwsQLJ0Qv7k

 

[lennie_4]

smaller?

Couldn’t agree more! And I’m not a fan of the lights either. I quite liked the look of the 70 series until now, but this just looks really awkward.

 

[Tom D]

Is it just me, or does anyone else think the bonnet on the 2024 70 Series update looks really, really weird? The entire bonnet bulges up leaving the wipers in a deep trough at the base of the windscreen. And why did they even have to bulge it up when the motor is so much smaller?

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwsQLJ0Qv7k

The four cylinder will likely be taller than the V8, narrower but taller.

 

[FlyingTrotter]

ASPW just released a vid on the new Toyota and it’s. Little hard to reconcile his comments on the revamp with his comments on the IG - he seems to like things he disliked and to criticise things he said he wanted addressing in the IG - odd

the interior in particular seems incredibly dated for a revamped vehicle -
presumably it’s not coming to the UK - anyone know if the Lexus version is coming to the UK

 

[Tazzieman]

He's still the Toyo fanboy and still very salty about his negative Ineos experience.
Until he buys one or another - new - it's just more social media grifting
The new Toyos do nothing for me.

 

[Tom109]

I wonder if Ineos would sell more chequerplate kits if the holes were predrilled in all vehicles and just filled with grommets or painted bolts?

I was told the holes are drilled in the checker plate but the dealers have to drill the holes in the panels.

We have incredible amounts of salt solutions applied to Winter roads, and I am hyper-sensitive to this. So I don't want to disturb the factory corrosion protection. Heavy duty film for me.

 

[trobex]

The new Prado, on paper, same junk under the trunk for Australia. A fake hybrid with a 2.8T diesel 4Cyl... cmon. This will be a 100K car in a spec we could use for a face lifted vehicle...

 

[santa cruzing]

I don't know... Toyota builds reliable trucks and this thing may spec out $15k less than a comparable IG. I'm still waiting on an email I was supposed to get last month confirming when it will be built... Add to this that there's "cheap plastic" issues and all-new teething problems with the IG that I'd expect Toyota to manage better. I'm going to get in line for the new LC (I especially like the dimensions that are close to my old 80 series). If Toyota makes quicker progress, I'll step out of the Ineos line.

 

[Spjnr]

The tow rating of 2.7 ton isn't good enough to sell here in the UK. I'm assuming that it will be different for our market. This will be an expensive vehicle when it lands here I'd imagine, the current one tops out at £70k, even with the 4 cylinder

 

[YellowLab]

I don't know... Toyota builds reliable trucks and this thing may spec out $15k less than a comparable IG. I'm still waiting on an email I was supposed to get last month confirming when it will be built... Add to this that there's "cheap plastic" issues and all-new teething problems with the IG that I'd expect Toyota to manage better. I'm going to get in line for the new LC (I especially like the dimensions that are close to my old 80 series). If Toyota makes quicker progress, I'll step out of the Ineos line.

I’m on the same page as well

 

[Pipm4000]

The tow rating of 2.7 ton isn't good enough to sell here in the UK. I'm assuming that it will be different for our market. This will be an expensive vehicle when it lands here I'd imagine, the current one tops out at £70k, even with the 4 cylinder

3500kg in the press release with the 2.8 tdi engine carried over which will be given mild hybrid treatment in 2025. If it starts at £50k it will sell

 

[DCPU]

We have incredible amounts of salt solutions applied to Winter roads, and I am hyper-sensitive to this. So I don't want to disturb the factory corrosion protection. Heavy duty film for me.

Yes, I sympathise; but if the holes were there already and presumably corrosion protected then?

 

[Tom109]

Yes, I sympathise; but if the holes were there already and presumably corrosion protected then?

Yes, then probably a good solution!

 

[Spjnr]

3500kg in the press release with the 2.8 tdi engine carried over which will be given mild hybrid treatment in 2025. If it starts at £50k it will sell

Missed that, I guess 2.7 ton is the US value then. I quite like the look of it, but pretty done with 4 cylinders fir a while

 

[LC0013]

Does anyone have dimensions for the new USA land Cruiser??

 

[Loc Nar]

Just an idle observation - maybe it's an optical illusion, but it looks like the height to which the rear hatch fully opens might make a 270 degree awning tricky.

 

[anand]

Does anyone have dimensions for the new USA land Cruiser??

Length - 193.7"
Wheelbase - 111.2"
Width - 78"
Height - 73.2"

Approach Angle - 30º
Breakover - 22º
Departure - 25º
Ground Clearance - 8.7"

Edit: Source - https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a44690438/2024-toyota-land-cruiser-2021-land-cruiser-compared/

 

[MileHigh]

I don't think I'll find any new 4x4 without a front solid axle interesting. There are already plenty of options, and many with more exciting power trains. The new Prado isn't a large departure over the previous, nor is it very different from the 4runner.

If Toyota brings back another solid axle 4x4 to the states, then they'll have my attention.

I could have sworn that they mentioned a disconnect for the front sway bar? I assume that means a solid axle?

I still don’t get the positioning on this. I guess you have the models you have so they brought this here because we were all Wailing about the LC leaving. The LExus GX version would have madd more sense, I think, but I guess they didn’t want to rebrand it again.

But if the base model here is $55k, a stripper 4Runner 2023 is $40-$45. I guess a TRD PRO is about $55k, which is where these start, but I’d think that the 4Runner is going up in price, unless they are going to decontent it a bit to keep the price lower.

 

[LC0013]

Length - 193.7"
Wheelbase - 111.2"
Width - 78"
Height - 73.2"

Approach Angle - 30º
Breakover - 22º
Departure - 25º
Ground Clearance - 8.7"

Edit: Source - https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a44690438/2024-toyota-land-cruiser-2021-land-cruiser-compared/

Thanks! So longer and wider than 80 series LC and powered by a 4 cyl engine. Hell no!