General Coolant hose ~ damage / holed

[trobex]

This is a real concern for us Australians as this sort of thing in the middle of nowhere can make your outback adventure far more challenging. Glad to see the wrinkles are getting ironed out (hopefully) will pay carefully attention to mine when it arrives. I did see that the display vehicle I saw on Saturday had the negative to the starter attached the wrong way round as it was hanging low. (Sorry no pictures of it)

The only fix is for IA to implement real fixes via the Dealer network so that both warranty and claim remain IA's responsibility. We all need to be careful doing any sort of 'adjustment' as when you do (if needed) go for repair/warranty claim, the first thing any competent vehicle manufacturer does is look for 'outs'.

 

[DaveB]

This is piss poor design, quality and implementation of basic vehicle componentry. Not good enough for outback Australia... this is meant to be a vehicle capable of taking us across vast terrain and having to worry about hoses eating one another is concerning. Again, hope IA implement real fixes to the issues being found by current owners...

I ordered the "going to the mall version" not the "crossing vast terrain version" so I should be OK

 

[DCPU]

Maybe another area of concern for a potential coolant leak:

 

[DaBull]

Maybe another area of concern for a potential coolant leak:
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What's the plug with the pink clip at the top center of the photo above. Was something clipped into this and had to be removed when taking apart the panel or is this another plug for future use? DaBull

 

[DCPU]

What's the plug with the pink clip at the top center of the photo above. Was something clipped into this and had to be removed when taking apart the panel or is this another plug for future use? DaBull

There's a much better view of that curiously blanked off 10 way connector:

Taking the Front Wheels Off

So today I took the front wheels off to have a look around: But before I did, I thought I'd try and establish a baseline for backlash in the front differential/halfshafts/hubs. I got @ 20mm at the wheels before I could see the front propshaft turn. I tried later using just the brake disk and...

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I got an answer from Ineos via my agent:

My Q. "Blanked off 10-way connector behind offside headlight - what's it for?"
Ineos A. "My guess would be the winch controls if no winch fitted."

Hardly inspiring when you receive an answer to a technical query that starts with "My guess..."

It would be easy to check with anyone who has a winch - is the connector there and if so is it blanked or in use?

 

[IGL]

OMG = Oh, my guess... ?

 

[AnD3rew]

Maybe another area of concern for a potential coolant leak:
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Apparently turned out to be a pinhole leak in the small radiator itself and not a hose issue

 

[MarkH]

Maybe another area of concern for a potential coolant leak:

The new radiator is being airfreighted to Australia so actioned quickly by Ineos which is encouraging to see.

 

[AnD3rew]

Interested to know if the transmission coolant system is entirely separate from the engine cooling system or if they are connected, I assume the former, but if the latter that is a concern if you get a hit on the bumper and damage that small radiator and lose the fluid, you can probably baby it home with a careful eye on transmission temps. But if you lose the lot you are pretty much stuffed.

 

[AWo]

They may use the same cooler housing, but that doesn't mean they are connected.

AWo

 

[AnD3rew]

They may use the same cooler housing, but that doesn't mean they are connected.

AWo

Not sure what you mean by housing. Do you mean reservoir? In which case even if the systems are not connected below the reservoir, if one gets holed then the reservoir is drained for both. That may not cause an immediate issue if the main cooling system is properly filled but over time it isn’t ideal.

 

[AWo]

No, the cooler itself. It can consist out of two separate sections.

AWo

 

[AnD3rew]

No, the cooler itself. It can consist out of two separate sections.

AWo

Well the transmission cooler is a completely separate unit that sits behind the bumper on the outside wing

 

[DCPU]

Well the transmission cooler is a completely separate unit that sits behind the bumper on the outside wing

That's the oil cooler for the transfer case your referring to. I had thought from generic BMW documentation that there was a transmission cooler plumbed into the water coolant lines that's tucked up somewhere behind the engine/adjacent to the transmission.

 

[AnD3rew]

That's the oil cooler for the transfer case your referring to. I had thought from generic BMW documentation that there was a transmission cooler plumbed into the water coolant lines that's tucked up somewhere behind the engine/adjacent to the transmission.

There is a small radiator each side of the bumper wings. One is I believe the transmission and one transfer case. The person referenced here confirmed was coolant leaking and not oil and that the small radiator was the one being replaced

 

[bakepl]

The new radiator is being airfreighted to Australia so actioned quickly by Ineos which is encouraging to see.

Fantastic to hear they're on to it and as you say is most encouraging..... wasn't there going to be a huge warehouse full of parts in Melbourne for the entire Aust Asia area? Perhaps they could consider radiators as an early stock item for the inevitable front ender/leak... like a windscreen, maybe they're building up stock...

 

[DCPU]

There is a small radiator each side of the bumper wings. One is I believe the transmission and one transfer case. The person referenced here confirmed was coolant leaking and not oil and that the small radiator was the one being replaced

So this one is the transmission cooler?

From the general BMW engine schematics, the transmission cooler/heater (item 7) is a transmission fluid to coolant heat exchanger rather than a coolant to air type?

I had previously thought this radiator was most likely the high pressure exhaust gas recirculation cooler (item 15); but obviously we are all in the dark without official Ineos schematics.

 

[AnD3rew]

So this one is the transmission cooler?
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From the general BMW engine schematics, the transmission cooler is a transmission fluid to coolant heat exchanger rather than a coolant to air type?

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I had previously thought this radiator was most likely the high pressure exhaust gas recirculation cooler; but obviously we are all in the dark without official Ineos schematics.

It does appear to be the transmission cooler, but as you say, we are mushrooms at this stage.

 

[DCPU]

It does appear to be the transmission cooler

I'm not following that?

 

[anand]

So this one is the transmission cooler?
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Assuming the RHD/LHD vehicles have the same cooling orientations, that is an aux radiator; the transmission cooler is on the (LHD) driver's side