Comprehensive list of all known Grenadier Side Steps

[RyanT]

What maintenance?? Paint gets scratched on either one and will need touched up either way, and the 1/4" steel I have on other rigs looks fine 10-20 years later. Honestly, SS is a solution looking for a problem. The ss buzz units are 3mm. The mounting arms get bent in transit. Gusset all you want, but slam that on a rock and it's gonna dent. Body protection isn't where weight is the first priority.

@Zimm if you are going to provide "information" at least have the courtesy of making sure it's correct...

To be clear, we have not had any mounting arms bend in transit or through any form of use or abuse our rocklisders have been put through. What you are referring to is a tab on the centre mounting plate that there were a small handful that were bent in transit. of 36 sets that were shipped there were three reports of this happening. We've shipped over 200 sets out our rockslides all over the world (Australia, Mongolia, UAE, New Zealand to mention a few) this year and other than these three we haven't had any other reports of damage to them in transit or otherwise.

Then saying SS is a solution looking for a problem, perhaps if you dont live in areas with high road salt or inclement weather. What we have in the UK and what alot of our customers who live in similar or harsher climates rusts mild steel incredibly quickly. So you aren’t just giving something a quick touch up, it's usually a case of getting parts sandblasted and recoated.In our opinion there is noting worst than rusty parts on a relatively new vehicle. We see it all the time over here.

Also comparing 3mm316 SS to Mild steel isn't a like for like comparison. Stainless is stronger than mild steel which allows us to use a thinner gauge and reap the benefits of some weight saving on an already heavy rig along with providing something that is impervious to corrosion.

Cheers

 

[Zimm]

@Zimm if you are going to provide "information" at least have the courtesy of making sure it's correct...

To be clear, we have not had any mounting arms bend in transit or through any form of use or abuse our rocklisders have been put through. What you are referring to is a tab on the centre mounting plate that there were a small handful that were bent in transit. of 36 sets that were shipped there were three reports of this happening. We've shipped over 200 sets out our rockslides all over the world (Australia, Mongolia, UAE, New Zealand to mention a few) this year and other than these three we haven't had any other reports of damage to them in transit or otherwise.

Then saying SS is a solution looking for a problem, perhaps if you dont live in areas with high road salt or inclement weather. What we have in the UK and what alot of our customers who live in similar or harsher climates rusts mild steel incredibly quickly. So you aren’t just giving something a quick touch up, it's usually a case of getting parts sandblasted and recoated.In our opinion there is noting worst than rusty parts on a relatively new vehicle. We see it all the time over here.

Also comparing 3mm316 SS to Mild steel isn't a like for like comparison. Stainless is stronger than mild steel which allows us to use a thinner gauge and reap the benefits of some weight saving on an already heavy rig along with providing something that is impervious to corrosion.

Cheers

Yea, the mounting tabs bent. When you put pressure on a slider the tabs are the fulcrum point of the lever arm, the point that will see the most force, yet, the post man can bend them. 3mm (3/32nd nominal) ss has about 10k more tensile strength but the shallow cross section equates to more distortion than 3/16 or 1/4 carbon (what the impact surface and mounting brackets ought to be). Also, I live in a area where the rod crew gets overtime to turn the streets into salt flats at a whiff of snow. My fj60 is holier than a priest, but the sliders (main body 2x4x1/4 tube) look new after 20 years. 1) go wheeling 2) bash and drag them over rocks 3) at some point every few years give the scratches a quick rub with 220-400 paper and a shot of paint. The same process you're going to have to do to SS units if you want to get rid of scratches, assuming they are doing more than looking cool.

Here's a pic from this morning after licking fingers to wipe a spot off. 1/4 square and round, 20 years old, 20 years of salt/slush winters, and the first re-tread taping and complete single coat repaint was this summer. Where's the rust?

Are they heavier? f**k yea. This isn't a race truck. Due the stout design, it's already grossly overweight for what it is. The aftermarket body protection is the cheap expendable to protect the body from expensive repairs and is NOT where one decides to be a weight wienie with 3mm mounting brackets that can't survive a drop from the FeEx guy, let alone a drop on a rock with 6000 pounds on top of it. The main runners expected to take an impact are the same material. To me whats telling isn't that only three bent in shipping, it's that any of them could be bent bent at all. A freight company ought to be able to bash them with the tip of a forklift, and only produce a scratch.

cheers.

 

[parb]

You mention this slider is still a bit too high to be a convenient step. I assume this observation applies to all steps where the step surface is directly below the IG's black plastic rocker panel. I tested it out by lifting my foot into that level, and it felt high!

I just replaced my step with a slider. I have the dissent off-road slider. It's a bit of a higher foot hold than the stock Ineos step but not annoyingly so. I found the factory slider to be really uncomfortable to use as a step to get into the vehicle.

 

[HereinDaRockies]

I just replaced my step with a slider. I have the dissent off-road slider. It's a bit of a higher foot hold than the stock Ineos step but not annoyingly so. I found the factory slider to be really uncomfortable to use as a step to get into the vehicle.

Thanks for the insight.. really sold on dissent’s aesthetics. Recognize something like the owl slider is lower and more step friendly but it’s aesthetics is not my cup of tea

 

[parb]

I'm posting pictures of steps into the "what have you done to your grenadier today" thread on the next 5 minutes. They are really legit

 

[parb]

I hope this helps someone.
I asked the dissent guys what I should use if I scratch the paint off the slider, specifically underneath it.
They did not recommend regular paint, they recommended duplicolor truck bed liner. They said it works much better.

Attached is a pic of the product they recommend that I took in their shop

 

[RyanT]

Yea, the mounting tabs bent. When you put pressure on a slider the tabs are the fulcrum point of the lever arm, the point that will see the most force, yet, the post man can bend them. 3mm (3/32nd nominal) ss has about 10k more tensile strength but the shallow cross section equates to more distortion than 3/16 or 1/4 carbon (what the impact surface and mounting brackets ought to be). Also, I live in a area where the rod crew gets overtime to turn the streets into salt flats at a whiff of snow. My fj60 is holier than a priest, but the sliders (main body 2x4x1/4 tube) look new after 20 years. 1) go wheeling 2) bash and drag them over rocks 3) at some point every few years give the scratches a quick rub with 220-400 paper and a shot of paint. The same process you're going to have to do to SS units if you want to get rid of scratches, assuming they are doing more than looking cool.

Here's a pic from this morning after licking fingers to wipe a spot off. 1/4 square and round, 20 years old, 20 years of salt/slush winters, and the first re-tread taping and complete single coat repaint was this summer. Where's the rust?

Are they heavier? f**k yea. This isn't a race truck. Due the stout design, it's already grossly overweight for what it is. The aftermarket body protection is the cheap expendable to protect the body from expensive repairs and is NOT where one decides to be a weight wienie with 3mm mounting brackets that can't survive a drop from the FeEx guy, let alone a drop on a rock with 6000 pounds on top of it. The main runners expected to take an impact are the same material. To me whats telling isn't that only three bent in shipping, it's that any of them could be bent bent at all. A freight company ought to be able to bash them with the tip of a forklift, and only produce a scratch.

cheers.

@Zimm Not gonna going to get into a debate with when you clearly haven't seen our sliders in the flesh. Maybe stick to talking about things you have hands on experience with...

 

[TCMColorado]

It should be acknowledged that something getting bent in transit does not mean it will be subject to the same damage once actually installed. After installation the mounting points of rock sliders are braced and triangulated whereas in the box they are more vulnerable to loads they will not actually experience once mounted. Further more not every owner needs absolute strength, some just want a functional step or modest protection. That is why there are multiple alternatives from different manufacturers. Buyers can choose the one that best meets their needs.

 

[HereinDaRockies]

Thank you for this! Since you work for Owl, any pics from the shop of an install on a stock grenadier? Mine is currently stock and I’m trying to assess the aesthetics, too, in addition to the durability/functionality. Many thanks!

I had the same concern.. I photoshopped the owl sliders onto my stock IG. Hope this helps you decide.

 

[HereinDaRockies]

I just replaced my step with a slider. I have the dissent off-road slider. It's a bit of a higher foot hold than the stock Ineos step but not annoyingly so. I found the factory slider to be really uncomfortable to use as a step to get into the vehicle.

It looks like with the dissent sliders, one’s foot frequently slam into the IG’s plastic rocker panel. How difficult is it to avoid the plastic rocker panel? I know the width of the step surface plays a major role in this dynamic.

 

[parb]

I haven't had that problem. I installed an a pillar grab handle though so I'm not really balancing on the step I'm more just using it for lift so only need part of the foot on it.

 

[anand]

Is LFD bringing those to market?

They're on the site now... $1699 with an 8wk lead time

Formed Step Sliders - Ineos Grenadier

Introducing our Formed Step Sliders for the Ineos Grenadier!Constructed of .185" thick steel, our Formed Step Sliders bolt to the factory front and rear slider mounting points, offering a step and rocker protection at the same time. Powder coat black finish with bolt on stainless steel tread...

lfdoffroad.com

 

[HereinDaRockies]

They're on the site now... $1699 with an 8wk lead time

Formed Step Sliders - Ineos Grenadier

Introducing our Formed Step Sliders for the Ineos Grenadier!Constructed of .185" thick steel, our Formed Step Sliders bolt to the factory front and rear slider mounting points, offering a step and rocker protection at the same time. Powder coat black finish with bolt on stainless steel tread...

lfdoffroad.com

Arghh why do they display their logo so prominently!? Right up front where the driver enters the vehicle.

 

[anand]

Arghh why do they display their logo so prominently!? Right up front where the driver enters the vehicle.

Since I have these sliders on my own truck, one solution is to just not put that tread plate on (the one with the logo)

 

[Zimm]

Since I have these sliders on my own truck, one solution is to just not put that tread plate on (the one with the logo)

Thanks. I was waiting for these to appear before I purchased a good foundation for me to work with. I sent him questions.

 

[AUDIOBUS]

The rock sliders from both Overland Garage 4x4 and Dirtbox should be added to the list in the first post.

Overland Garage 4x4
https://everythinggrenadier.com/product/og4x4-rock-sliders-for-ineos-grenadier/

Has anyone installed the Overland Garage sliders, and if so, thoughts?

 

[CJV]

Received and installed my Dissent Offroad Grenadier Step Sliders yesterday. I couldn’t be happier with materials and build quality. The rails are 3/16” steel with 1/4” steel mounting brackets. They were shipped via UPS and extremely well wrapped. In foam sheets and plastic wrap. My only criticism is that the parts were not marked, so there was a bit of trial an error involved in getting the first one properly bolted to the frame. About that, all the tapped holes in my frame had rusted threads required a little cleanup with a tap and penetrating oil.

There were no instructions in the box, but they are available on Dissent’s website. The second slider went on easier than the first. It wasn’t intuitive to me that the sliders could be installed level or at a slightly pitched rake, which is facilitated via the spacer plates on the Rear Bracket. Also, you can adjust the depth of the step/rail from the frame, which I chose to push out to maximum.

Another little tricky bit was fastening down the top tread plate to the slider rail, which required a little dexterity to hold the nut and washer under the hole inside the angled outside edge. A dab of putty to hold the washer on the nut helps when you’re working with the small bolts.