1000% agree. I'll bet NA leadership (Greg) wanted this to be different but ran out of runway.
@Mossy Ineos Grenadier TX Ashton, its never too late
I thought the Yeti store in Austin is a good example of what the Ineos dealer should look like.
1000% agree. I'll bet NA leadership (Greg) wanted this to be different but ran out of runway.
I thought the Yeti store in Austin is a good example of what the Ineos dealer should look like.
A little narrow, but otherwise quite nice.
This is what I want my next coffee shop to look like. I envision a safari-adventure-exploration style interior, much like the expedition/outpost theme of the Land Rover dealership of the late 90’s. I think it looks welcoming, and very family friendly, classy, and educated all at the same time. Obviously a modern interpretation, of the above image.
I meant tongue weight. Gross trailer can honestly be whatever that’s just for regulatory people not practical use. I had a f150 on the ranch I grew up working and I’d tow tractor implements everywhere, just didn’t go fast. Basically any half ton or otherwise vehicle has a tongue weight of 700lbs. If you’re balanced right you shouldn’t be exceeding that and not see much sag. Take a high lift jack and put it under your trailer with a scale on it and start jacking. My twin axel boat that will hit 8k with it completely loaded out, 150gal fuel, coolers of ice,+trailer doesn’t do 700lbs on the tongue.
I'm kind of surprised by lack of TrailMasters, (1?) (or TM's w/steelies) and winch options (2?).
www.airstream.com
Again, the hitch has a limit, as do most in the category, of 700lbs on it. Putting 1,000lbs on it is already in excess of its design.From a camping trailer perspective, you hear 10% as a good estimate of what will sit on the hitch. But it varies. A stand-out example is Airstream. Nice trailers, nice materials, iconic, expensive. For a given trailer weight, the percentage an Airstream puts on the hitch of the tow vehicle is higher than 10%.
Example: a 25' Flying Cloud has a base weight of 5,650 lbs and at that base weight, it's putting 860 lbs on the hitch. (!) That's 15%. So 860 lbs taken away from your truck's payload before and your passengers and gear get in.
Load it with liquids and cargo close to its GVWR of 7,300 lbs and you'll have over 1,000 lbs on your hitch.
Specifications | Flying Cloud | Travel Trailers | Airstream
Check out the full list of specifications for every one of the Flying Cloud's floorplans and compare them side by side.
Anyways, Airstream is a tough example and some would say a camping 25' trailer is inappropriate for the Greandier's wheelbase or other aspects. But even with an F150, giving up 1,000 lbs of payload before passengers and gear is something to think about.
No, but I was pleased to see that Crown in FL received the first deliveries with the tow option. That was from the same ship that arrived Brunswick Nov 6 that my vehicle was on. So hopefully Mossy will get some units with tow package in the next few days.
I was called and told mine should be on its way so hopefully soon.
Ha! Good call. I completely agree with you and @Krabby - the idea of more outdoor and less slacks/button-down look. While I don't want them looking like a Disney adventure theme park workers, we do have Ineos branded uniforms on the way. Hats / shirts / khakis - all much more in-line with the vehicle's ethos.Ashton, how about getting your sales guides to dress in safari/outdoor clothes. My fond memory of buying my first Land Rover was that back then, late 90's, the salesmen dressed in safari guide outfits. They really sold the whole lifestyle, not just the car (I did end up buying a Disco2 from the original LR dealer in Houston). Their showroom too, looked outdoorsy. Hate the slick new urban look LR showrooms now have.
I've been following those discussions as well. In my personal experience, after delivering our first Grenadier this past weekend and driving it for about 30mi, I did notice the alerts. They were helpful in some instances, particularly with speed limit changes, but I agree that they can become intrusive, especially when marginally exceeding the limit. I'm awaiting a response from Ineos and hopeful for a quick software update. At this moment though, I don't have definitive information. It's a priority.
Thank you Mossy. Many of us are paying a lot of attention to this and appreciate your transparency.
Mine is in Houston ready to go, but I can't make it until Friday. So, close, but not yet. Have the tow package.
Great news! That is the first one I’ve heard about delivered to the Houston dealership with the tow package.
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