That's awesome!
That's awesome!
Happy New Year!
Had a great weekend - I bought a brand new Defender. For anyone who thinks that the slow, flaky, and basically retarded Grenadier central screen is ok - try the Defender. The software is fast and flawless, and brilliant. Everything on the car works, not just most stuff like my Grenadier. I am so happy that I have bought this vehicle. Guys - if you are unhappy with Ineos taking the piss with the not-market-ready Grenadier - then change!
I sold my HSE Defender that was well optioned with all the off road packs for the Grenadier and couldn’t be happier. There is a great Defender forum that’s fairly active -
Glad you found your solution! That is what everyone is after.
Hi shawtrav, Congratulations on the New Defender. I have a New 2020 Defender, which is the First Edition Model. It is an amazing vehicle, incredibly refined and has robust 0-60 in 5.8 sec performance too. Best vehicle I have ever owned. For me it's time for a new adventure, so waiting for my New Grenadier to arrive in April. If I ever grow dissatisfied with the Grenadier, then I will be back to a New Defender. Both vehicles are a win-win for those adventured minded and a bit eccentric too. DaBull
Hi Andiamo, I love my New Defender too. I also had my two front headlights replaced because the LED daytime running lights component failed. Thank God it was under warranty, as cost for each was over $4,000. You would think they would have designed it with just a simple led strip to replace instead of the whole headlight assembly.
I’m not being a hater, but that is utterly ridiculous. I don’t care which brand you support, they all make questionable decisions, but expecting someone to pay 8 grand to replace their headlights is plain dumb. I dare say criminal.
Hi Krabby, I completely agree with you. That's why I am only keeping my New Defender while under warranty. Same maybe for the New Grenadier, however instead of 4 years and 50,000 mile warranty on the New Defender, I get 5 years and 60,000 miles on the New Grenadier. Yea! DaBull
@shawtrav Stop, just stop. Indont know the year of your new defender but I got one when they rolled off the ship. Let me tell you the software experience. Multiple warnings from driver aids. Multiple emergency braking no longer active, no cruise control, couple engine warnings that turned out to be nothing. The worse was when on a ferry ready to drive off, the car was in drive and the car decided to put on the emergency brakes which are electronically control. Apparently the car thought I had on the car in drive for to long and it should have emergency brakes on. What car didn't tell you is that the emergency brakes were on. It took me 5 minutes of trying to move forward with the ferry crew yelling at me to figure out the emergency brakes were on. Finally popped the brakes and error codes lite up the dash. ABS inactive, brakes no longer worked. Tol me to drive slowly to a LR CENTER. I was stuck on a island with closes LR center a ferry ride and a 15 mile drive. You know how I cleared the codes. I gunned the engine and slammed on the brakes which were already at the floor with no resistance. Then I put it in reverse and did the same thing. Cleared everything up and I could use the brakes again.
Krabby - I have a 2017 Honda Ridgeline as my commuter. It has the most brilliant, flame-thrower LED headlights I have ever had the pleasure to enjoy! I found out they dropped these for the 2019 model, in favor of a very poor bulb light. Now I can suspect why - replacement cost! For utility I'll add the RL beats the ND hands down
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Exactly my thoughts too, and in NZ the warranty is only three years! Already sold mine two months ago, so at least it had some warranty remaining for the next owner. Loved it and at times hated it too. (Windscreens, turbo ventilation issues and a complete system failure in the first few months that my partner had to deal with as I was overseas) . Sadly they never made up after that
Thanks, I hear your pain with your Defender. Mine is brand new, and so far is faultless.
That same argument was said by many who bought, like me a 2020 land rover defender. Go on to the LR forum and start with the early posts. You will find me on the forum, same user name as here. Keep in mind LR has been making cars since 1948. Ineos from my experience is ahead of LR in terms of quality of product when delivered. I would say Ineos has done a better job of keeping people up to speed versus LR. That is my opinion based off of the number of times Ineos leadership has stepped in to make things right. Jerry leaves you hanging at LR.
