Deutsch DTP plugs

globalgregors · May 31, 2023

TheDocAUS said:
I have revised the first post to correct some information and add later discoveries to that post.

Excellent, thanks for doing that. Hope the recovery is proceeding well!

TheDocAUS · May 31, 2023

It turns out I had 10 broken bones (9 breaks on 7 ribs and a cracked sternum), when I thought I only had 8 breaks. So progress is a bit slow.

globalgregors · May 31, 2023

TheDocAUS said:
It turns out I had 10 broken bones (9 breaks on 7 ribs and a cracked sternum), when I thought I only had 8 breaks. So progress is a bit slow.

Ouch. Hang in there digger.

AnD3rew · May 31, 2023

TheDocAUS said:
It turns out I had 10 broken bones (9 breaks on 7 ribs and a cracked sternum), when I thought I only had 8 breaks. So progress is a bit slow.

Having broken ribs on a number of occasions, you have my sympathy, long slow and painful and pretty much nothing you can do to hurry it up. Breathing hurts, lying down hurts, rolling over in bed is agony, coughing is agony, standing up hurts. It’s a bugger

Andrew Kilby · May 31, 2023

DaveB said:
Nice one
I like the way they have included the picture of the panel and switches they relate to
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Thanks for researching this. They certainly are expensive but the quality is there. Thanks again.

DCPU · May 31, 2023

TheDocAUS said:
Closed barrel superior to open
I have tested open and closed barrel pins/sockets. The closed style are definitely superior.

Apologises if I've missed this, but why?

Also, do we know which type Ineos fitted in the plugs in the roof boxes?

TheDocAUS · May 31, 2023

Closed verse open barrel pins/sockets
My original comment here, then my review here.

In summary, the closed barrel pins/sockets are stronger, give a superior crimp and are better sealed against corrosion.

Not sure what the INEOS is fitted with, my guess would be closed barrel, but that is a guess.

rovie · May 31, 2023

I agree. In the meantime, my delivery of DTP with closed barrel pins has arrived. Now I'm waiting for the crimping tool and the housings to be mounted on the trim.

bakepl · May 31, 2023

If you're after the crimp type for bits n bobs I can recommend these...DTP and DT... decent quality

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005421076430.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.22.431a1802ndfIyr

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002996769107.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.281.431a1802ndfIyr

rovie · May 31, 2023

bakepl said:
If you're after the crimp type for bits n bobs I can recommend these...DTP and DT... decent quality

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005421076430.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.22.431a1802ndfIyr

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002996769107.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.281.431a1802ndfIyr

The 2nd link does not work because the item is already out of stock. Can you please send a picture. I want to see if it might be the same tool I ordered. Thanks.

bakepl · May 31, 2023

rovie said:
The 2nd link does not work because the item is already out of stock. Can you please send a picture. I want to see if it might be the same tool I ordered. Thanks.

link works ok here but this is the product:

rovie · May 31, 2023

I have ordered this tool for myself. Other people are very satisfied with it.

TheDocAUS · May 31, 2023

Be careful when you buy your DTP plugs (DT plugs are NOT used on the IG roof, but DTP plugs). You need to work out exactly what parts you need and work out the total cost.

If you buy both sides of the plug, both pins/sockets and wedgelocks for both sides the price adds up quickly on those AliExpress links.

rovie · May 31, 2023

TheDocAUS said:
Be careful when you buy your DTP plugs (DT plugs are NOT used on the IG roof, but DTP plugs). You need to work out exactly what parts you need and work out the total cost.

If you buy both sides of the plug, both pins/sockets and wedgelocks for both sides the price adds up quickly on those AliExpress links.

Thanks for the tip. I already have my DTP plugs. They fit perfectly. I know the site of AliExpress. However, I did not buy there, but chose 2 other suppliers in Germany.

rovie · May 31, 2023

bakepl said:
link works ok here but this is the product:

View attachment 7814150

The first link works for me too. I meant the 2nd link to the tool. Thank you.

Francois · May 31, 2023

TheDocAUS said:
Be careful when you buy your DTP plugs (DT plugs are NOT used on the IG roof, but DTP plugs). You need to work out exactly what parts you need and work out the total cost.

If you buy both sides of the plug, both pins/sockets and wedgelocks for both sides the price adds up quickly on those AliExpress links.

I agree that the costs could quickly adds up. My question is: would it not be easier and cheaper to replace the DTP outside with an Anderson plug/connector? In other words, replace the DTP plug in its entirety with an Anderson plug? The space inside the little black plastic lit looks sufficient for such a plug. The other question is: would the wires coming from the car be long enough to fit into the Anderson plug?

bakepl · May 31, 2023

rovie said:
The first link works for me too. I meant the 2nd link to the tool. Thank you.

ah, no tool sorry, I use generic crimpers for this style of pin. The tool you have ordered is for the solid barrel type of pins that crimp on 4 sides of the barrel. (I think this is better than the open type I have but have used open types for years with no problem)

TheDocAUS · May 31, 2023

Francois said:
I agree that the costs could quickly adds up. My question is: would it not be easier and cheaper to replace the DTP outside with an Anderson plug/connector? In other words, replace the DTP plug in its entirety with an Anderson plug? The space inside the little black plastic lit looks sufficient for such a plug. The other question is: would the wires coming from the car be long enough to fit into the Anderson plug?

The wire is thin, so there maybe issues getting a decent crimp on an Anderson lug. Remember the maximum rated capacity is 25 amps for the roof circuits.

No idea whether there is spare cable you can pull from inside the roof.

It would be easier to use Deutsch DTP plugs, than changing over to Anderson plugs in the roof. I would not cut off perfectly good Deutsch DTP plugs unless I had a good reason.

Plus many brands of LED camp lights or Lightbars use Deutsch plugs on their lights (mostly DT style plugs from what have seen).

Andrew Kilby · Jun 4, 2023

Francois said:
I agree that the costs could quickly adds up. My question is: would it not be easier and cheaper to replace the DTP outside with an Anderson plug/connector? In other words, replace the DTP plug in its entirety with an Anderson plug? The space inside the little black plastic lit looks sufficient for such a plug. The other question is: would the wires coming from the car be long enough to fit into the Anderson plug?

My suggestion is stick with the deutcher plugs. You pay a lot of money for the vehicle so why not pay just a little more for the best plug.

rovie · Jun 4, 2023

Andrew Kilby said:
My suggestion is stick with the deutcher plugs. You pay a lot of money for the vehicle so why not pay just a little more for the best plug.

That's why I ordered more Deutsch plugs a few minutes ago.

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