Deutsch DTP plugs

bigleonski · Apr 28, 2023

Champion!!

DCPU · Apr 28, 2023

No ~ that's spark plugs...

AnD3rew · Apr 29, 2023

TheDocAUS said:
@AnD3rew Are they Deutsch DT or DTP plugs in your kit, or both? Some kits you give both.

Some of the male plugs in the centre section look like DT plugs, the compressed orange seal gives it away (the DTP do not have that style of seal), but there are plenty of plugs I cannot see properly which maybe the DTP ones. The INEOS roof area outlets uses DTP not DT plugs, but we do not know what the footwell power outlets use, at present.

The mixture of orange and green wedgelocks also suggests DT style plugs if they are genuine Deutsch plugs.

The white arrow is pointing to the compressed orange seal I talk about above.
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Well I will be annoyed if they are DT because I ordered DTP

DaveB · Apr 29, 2023

I googled Deutsche Connectors near me and this came up 20 minutes drive from me

bigleonski · Apr 29, 2023

DaveB said:
I googled Deutsche Connectors near me and this came up 20 minutes drive from me
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Did you check that it wasn’t a German elderly backpackers dating site meet up? I would have thought that would be more likely in the region known as God’s Waiting Room.

globalgregors · Apr 29, 2023

DaveB said:
I googled Deutsche Connectors near me and this came up 20 minutes drive from me
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German swingers club for sure

edit: @bigleonski beat me to it!

TheDocAUS · Apr 29, 2023

AnD3rew said:
Well I will be annoyed if they are DT because I ordered DTP

Do all those plugs in the middle tray have the compressed orange seal? If yes, they are all DT plugs. Plus DT plugs are the only ones which use a green and an orange wedgelock (but I cannot say if that applies to knock off brands, it does for genuine Deutsch plugs).

Only one side of the DT plug has the compressed orange seal, so the other side of the plug is irrelevant (those in the right side of the tray).

A DTP plug has no compressed orange seal on either side. It is the DTP plug that is rated to 25amps, not the DT (rating is 13 amps).

Better to find out know and fix it, then find out when you get the IG.

We know the roof uses DTP plugs, the footwell plug is still to be determined.

AnD3rew · Apr 29, 2023

TheDocAUS said:
Do all those plugs in the middle tray have the compressed orange seal? If yes, they are all DT plugs. Plus DT plugs are the only ones which use a green and an orange wedgelock (but I cannot say if that applies to knock off brands, it does for genuine Deutsch plugs).

Only one side of the DT plug has the compressed orange seal, so the other side of the plug is irrelevant (those in the right side of the tray).

A DTP plug has no compressed orange seal on either side. It is the DTP plug that is rated to 25amps, not the DT (rating is 13 amps).

Better to find out know and fix it, then find out when you get the IG.

We know the roof uses DTP plugs, the footwell plug is still to be determined.

Sigh they are DT, oh well they will have to be returned it’s not like I’m in any hurry

TheDocAUS · Apr 29, 2023

Just FYI in another thread on the forum they are having trouble locating the footwell power outlets. The fuse panel shows one in the right and another in the left footwell but the actual plugs has not been found yet. The search continues.

They are fused at 10amps, which means INEOS could use a Deutsch DT plug (rated at 13 amps). For consistency I hope they use the DTP plug (the plug used on the roof, when you choose the aux power option).

Eric · Apr 29, 2023

TheDocAUS said:
The search continues.

The search could become epic, greater than "The Da Vinci Code"

Wayneos · Apr 29, 2023

TheDocAUS said:
Just FYI in another thread on the forum they are having trouble locating the footwell power outlets. The fuse panel shows one in the right and another in the left footwell but the actual plugs has not been found yet. The search continues.

They’re plugs in a car, how hard can it be?

TheDocAUS · Apr 29, 2023

It is beginning to look like that.

It will be obvious after they find them, or they may just be a unicorn.

Never to be found in the production vehicle.

Francois · May 18, 2023

TheDocAUS said:
What is on the IG aux power roof outlets?
I have now had time to look closely at various pictures of the Deutsch DTP plugs on the IG (roof only), plus I have crimped a few Deutsch DTP plugs as well.

Looking at the picture below, the image shows Parts DTP04-2P and DTP06-2S with white seals in the end. The female sockets are matched with the DTP06-2S, the male pins are matched with the DTP04-2P.

This image, from the IG, shows a complete pair of Deutsch DTP plugs (probably no sockets in the DTP06-2S and maybe no wedgelock). I have added labels (which hopefully are all correct):
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Image first posted by Jean Mercier

The white seals are easier to see in this image.

Dear Michael
Question from y side: From your comment, does it imply that the IG comes with both the DTP04-2P and DTP06-2S, being the male and female plug?
Thank you

TheDocAUS · May 18, 2023

Francois

If you have the aux power option chosen, there are 4 plugs on the roof comprising the DTP04-2P and the DTP06-2S (but no sockets on the DTP06-2S side). Not sure if there is a wedgelock on the DTP06-2S either. So I have a few spares of the sockets, pins/sockets and wedgelocks (each half has a different wedgelock).

I finally worked out what 2S means, two sockets for the that plug. The other is 2P, meaning two pins for the other side

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Footwell outlets do not have any Deustch plugs (just cable ends/wire tails).

Logsplitter · May 19, 2023

Can anyone in the U.K. recommend a well priced crimp tool for Deutsch DTP pins or does it work out cheaper to use the stamped and formed pins and a regular crimper. A lot of the closed terminal crimpers are are a few hundred quid each !

TheDocAUS · May 19, 2023

There are two types of closed Deutsch crimpers, the ones that can crimp various size pins and sockets – which are really expensive.

The other only works with a fixed size pin/socket. They work really well and are much cheaper. If you are only using DTP size pins/sockets get a fixed size crimper like this (size 12 for DTP plugs).

UK Motorsports shops may also have them, as they often use Deutsch plugs.

Closed barrel superior to open
I have tested open and closed barrel pins/sockets. The closed style are definitely superior.

Cheshire cat · May 30, 2023

DenisM said:
@TheDocAUS.
Thousand thanks !!! This post on Deutsch plugs exemplifies exactly what I have been hoping the forum will provide in the future : accurate technical data, freely given with good will for the benefit of all.
Well done. I've been a bit overwhelmed to be honest at the myriad options for Deutsch connectors wondering how to make sense of it all before adding yet more specialised tools to the "must have" collection!!!
If we meet on the track somewhere I'll make sure the beer is cold!
Hope you're having a peaceful Easter.

I completely agree with you. This forum is the most helpful I have ever been involved with. An invaluable source for anyone seriously interested in the Grenadier. If it isn't here, it hasn't been thought of.

TheDocAUS · May 30, 2023

I have revised the first post to correct some information and add later discoveries to that post.

AnD3rew · May 30, 2023

TheDocAUS said:
I have revised the first post to correct some information and add later discoveries to that post.

Awesome, thank you for all your hard work on this

Cheshire cat · May 30, 2023

Now, all I need to know is what I actually want to power from all these connections.

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