The steering pump whine is officially a issue…

[Dlucky]

Ineos has no fking shame.

You should just replace it.. a random sampling of a new PS pump is likely no worse than what you have

I agree. Truck goes in Monday to fix the cracked windshield, hopefully that will be receptive to looking into the Pump too.

 

[Blackgray]

Have any of you guys had any luck with your dealer addressing the steering whine? Mine said it was "normal," which I know it's not.

 

[Tjeska]

Its one of the little things our QM has.

Will address it once first maintenance comes up, will get back to this thread thereafter.

 

[GofastboatsMojito]

This is the one I got and it didn't use a whole lot at all. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B010MA2R8U?tag=globalgrena0b-20

Thanks for this, absolutely going to try

 

[GofastboatsMojito]

Have any of you guys had any luck with your dealer addressing the steering whine? Mine said it was "normal," which I know it's not.

I have tried 3 times? Each time they said it is just "normal for that pump". Meanwhile school children at the crosswalk run in fear at the scream of my vehicle.

 

[HereinDaRockies]

Its one of the little things our QM has.

Will address it once first maintenance comes up, will get back to this thread thereafter.

Your QM still has loud steering pump whine?

 

[Tjeska]

Yep, its gotten worse & did fill the reservoir full, I check it almost weekly just to be sure.

 

[Dlucky]

I have tried 3 times? Each time they said it is just "normal for that pump". Meanwhile school children at the crosswalk run in fear at the scream of my vehicle.

My truck in the shop right now. Service department says Power steering pump needs to hit 90 decibels in order to replace it. Mine is in the mid 80s. They know it’s not normal, they just have to say it is..

 

[HereinDaRockies]

My truck in the shop right now. Service department says Power steering pump needs to hit 90 decibels in order to replace it. Mine is in the mid 80s. They know it’s not normal, they just have to say it is..

So you are not getting a new pump?

 

[Dlucky]

So you are not getting a new pump?

Nope. Ineos would not approve the replacement

 

[HereinDaRockies]

How much would it be to pay out of pocket?

 

[MattA]

90 db for a steering pump??
That’s ridiculous in anyone’s book

 

[AWo]

Very interesting....

Regarding UN-ECE R51 which applies in 56 states of this world (Europe, Australia, Japan, to name a few) these are the maximum db levels for different vehicles. Regarding 6.2.2.2.2 +2 db are still fine...but the hightest level is 80 db.
I would ask Ineos how a 85 or 88 db level steering pump still fullfills this regulation? The manufacturer must ensure that all cars are following the regulations, see 8) of UN-ECE R51.

AWo

 

[Zimm]

ask for the calibration certificate on the db meter,

 

[Dlucky]

How much would it be to pay out of pocket?

Great question, I’ll ask this morning.

 

[Dlucky]

Very interesting....

Regarding UN-ECE R51 which applies in 56 states of this world (Europe, Australia, Japan, to name a few) these are the maximum db levels for different vehicles. Regarding 6.2.2.2.2 +2 db are still fine...but the hightest level is 80 db.
I would ask Ineos how a 85 or 88 db level steering pump still fullfills this regulation? The manufacturer must ensure that all cars are following the regulations, see 8) of UN-ECE R51.

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AWo

I’ll attach this to my email correspondence I have going with them.

 

[Zimm]

Great question, I’ll ask this morning.

You also have procedure/methodology... 90db at what distance? open or closed hood? If I put a install a genset, the housing has a db rating for 23ft, and my calculations at the property line may seem straight forward, but... summer to winter air density, surrounding vegetation and structure reflection etc, affects things. prolonged exposure at 85db can cause hearing damage. If you have a production facility, you have to enforce hearing safety. All of which makes me think Ineos is just making this shit up and pulling a number out of their ass they know you wont top. 90db WHERE??

 

[Zimm]

I’ll attach this to my email correspondence I have going with them.

what is paragraph 3.1 of annex 3??? that reads important.

 

[AWo]

I’ll attach this to my email correspondence I have going with them.

But remember there might be different limit in the US...you may check that first.

AWo

 

[Dlucky]

You also have procedure/methodology... 90db at what distance? open or closed hood? If I put a install a genset, the housing has a db rating for 23ft, and my calculations at the property line may seem straight forward, but... summer to winter air density, surrounding vegetation and structure reflection etc, affects things. prolonged exposure at 85db can cause hearing damage. If you have a production facility, you have to enforce hearing safety. All of which makes me think Ineos is just making this shit up and pulling a number out of their ass they know you wont top. 90db WHERE??

Agreed. I’ll dive deeper today with the service department. I honestly don’t think they know either or are even testing. It just feels like a total scam.
Not to mention the clunk I feel when the truck downshifts rapidly to a stop, they told me that’s normal again..HVAC blowing randomly in passenger footwell, normal by design.
They are replacing two front shocks that made a lot of noise when you drove over anything that wasn’t flat.