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HI - Just a quick question for the experts. My steering wheel is off center with the middle line at about 11:00. All else seems fine. Any ideas or is this normal? I really didn't notice it before and I installed a Fox steering dampener but can't see that it would do the?

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While it isn't common (at least not on newer builds), some have had their steering wheel be a few degrees off of centerline. This can easily be rectified by a dealer under warranty
 

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Steering damper would not affect steering wheel center issue. It’s on a spline, it’s possible that it was set in 1 tooth off center or something at the factory. Easy for dealer to correct if that’s the case.otherwise it would be alignment issue. Did you hit a 2-foot high boulder at 30 mph by chnace? :)
 

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Steering wheel alignment is adjusted by changing the length of drag link which connects steering box lever to passenger side knuckle lever. Looking at a picture posted by douggie the ball joints most probably have left and right hand (in picture) threads. After loosening the locking nuts the drag link is rotated to change it's length. The steering wheel is then rotating accordingly. If car is parked so that steering wheel is in the position where it is when going straight it can be now corrected to be at zero offset. One must remember that road inclination and side wind affect steering wheel position so there will be cases when it may be slightly offset. Misalignment itself doesn't have any meaning for steering or handling. Just looks odd.

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Steering damper would not affect steering wheel center issue. It’s on a spline, it’s possible that it was set in 1 tooth off center or something at the factory. Easy for dealer to correct if that’s the case.otherwise it would be alignment issue. Did you hit a 2-foot high boulder at 30 mph by chnace? :)
Actually it probably isn't the spline position. Most recent cars in my experience have only one position (blocked out spline or similar) probably related to the steering angle sensor.
 

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HI - Just a quick question for the experts. My steering wheel is off center with the middle line at about 11:00. All else seems fine. Any ideas or is this normal? I really didn't notice it before and I installed a Fox steering dampener but can't see that it would do the?

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Here is my steering wheel at 105kmh and it may or may not have the little line on the steering wheel off centre.
But as I never look at it I really don't care.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw2CnkkcCb4&t=66s
 

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Mine looks like this (left hand drive).
 

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Mine's offcentre. One day I might get it sorted but I'm not that anal about stuff to lose sleep over it.
I am, thankfully mine is perfect.
Years ago I had company cars and when finally got to pick my own new ones had Skoda Octavias, nice car and at time kept the tax far lower than equivalent 'luxury' brands from the same group. Company weren't keen initially as old men with outdated opinions (just like I am now). Second one I got had steering wheel off centre which really wound me up. Got them to fix it and looked fine. Month or 2 later, not many miles on car, had some snow on road couldn't get off the estate, thought nothing of it. Following weeks after long motorway drive the car got some rope trapped around one of the front wheels. When I went to remove it, it was the carcass of the inside of the wheel, totally worn away. When I went back to the dealer they told me they had to adjust the wheels to set the steering wheel and the tracking machine wasn't working so couldn't check alignment after. I was/am a careful driver and even though company fuel and car I used to try and get the best mpg and had done max 6,000 miles in the car. Complete death trap. Made complaint.
So as per my first comment, thankfully my Grenadier's steering wheel is set perfect
 

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Steering wheel alignment is adjusted by changing the length of drag link which connects steering box lever to passenger side knuckle lever. Looking at a picture posted by douggie the ball joints most probably have left and right hand (in picture) threads. After loosening the locking nuts the drag link is rotated to change it's length. The steering wheel is then rotating accordingly. If car is parked so that steering wheel is in the position where it is when going straight it can be now corrected to be at zero offset. One must remember that road inclination and side wind affect steering wheel position so there will be cases when it may be slightly offset. Misalignment itself doesn't have any meaning for steering or handling. Just looks odd.

I also have the steering wheel slightly off centre.
Coming from a Land I was also thinking of working on the steering bar but I first called my assistance centre.
on the grenadier the steering can be adjusted both mechanically from the steering bar and with the software!
in fact they have connected the diagnostics to the car and one of the various functions is the centering of the steering wheel :oops:
 

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I am, thankfully mine is perfect.
Years ago I had company cars and when finally got to pick my own new ones had Skoda Octavias, nice car and at time kept the tax far lower than equivalent 'luxury' brands from the same group. Company weren't keen initially as old men with outdated opinions (just like I am now). Second one I got had steering wheel off centre which really wound me up.
Don't get me wrong, I am anal about anything safety, durability or performance related, incl alignment.
 
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it was the dealer that messed up the alignment trying set the steering wheel, couldn't believe the excuse for not getting it aligned
My dealer said it’s 100% correct on the alignment machine but yet the steering will always be ever so slightly off set. Nothing they can do. They will only go by the specs set by Ineos and will not try anything else. However, there are many which are perfect. Why?

Quality survey. Ineos cannot produce or fix a steering and make it 100% straight. Yet other live axle 4x4 manufacturers can. Why? If this was made in China then everyone would be taking the p*ss.
 
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My dealer said it’s 100% correct on the alignment machine but yet the steering will always be every so slightly off set. Nothing they can do. They will only go by the specs set by Ineos and will not try anything else. However, there are many which are perfect. Why?

Quality survey. Ineos cannot produce or fix a steering and make it 100% straight. Yet other live axle 4x4 manufacturers can. Why? If this was made in China then everyone would be taking the p*ss.
Skydance, my quote was in reference to earlier one about another car (Skoda) I had in the past and not the Grenadier which does have an aligned steering wheel and wheels. Sorry for confusion
 

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My dealer said it’s 100% correct on the alignment machine but yet the steering will always be ever so slightly off set. Nothing they can do. They will only go by the specs set by Ineos and will not try anything else. However, are there so many are perfect. Why?

Quality survey. Ineos cannot produce or fix a steering and make it 100% straight. Yet other live axle 4x4 manufacturers can. Why? If this was made in China then everyone would be taking the p*ss.
I suspect they are lying to you. Easier to say they all do that than spend 5 minutes making adjustments.
 

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... the steering can be adjusted both mechanically from the steering bar and with the software!
in fact they have connected the diagnostics to the car and one of the various functions is the centering of the steering wheel :oops:
Software can't do it, needs to be done mechanically. But I forgot the EDC that has to know when the steering is pointing straight ahead. After mechanics are correct the angle sensor, ususally on steering axle, need just to be calibrated to correspond steering wheel. A minor correction may not harm the EDC.
 

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it was the dealer that messed up the alignment trying set the steering wheel, couldn't believe the excuse for not getting it aligned
Most probably they have not ever before seen a solid axle steering and didn't understand how to fix the steering wheel offset. Alignment itself may be correct but after that the steering wheel needs to be handled separately.
 

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Most probably they have not ever before seen a solid axle steering and didn't understand how to fix the steering wheel offset. Alignment itself may be correct but after that the steering wheel needs to be handled separately.
This was in reference to my earlier post about a Skoda and not the Grenadier, sorry for confusion, I'm new to all this social media stuff so get a bit mixed up in quotes/replys and the general thing. Only on this as I realise it is very useful/necessary. And, I would like to acknowledge everyone for their knowledge and information especially the ones who set the whole thing up in the first instance
 

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Steering wheel alignment is adjusted by changing the length of drag link which connects steering box lever to passenger side knuckle lever. Looking at a picture posted by douggie the ball joints most probably have left and right hand (in picture) threads. After loosening the locking nuts the drag link is rotated to change it's length. The steering wheel is then rotating accordingly. If car is parked so that steering wheel is in the position where it is when going straight it can be now corrected to be at zero offset. One must remember that road inclination and side wind affect steering wheel position so there will be cases when it may be slightly offset. Misalignment itself doesn't have any meaning for steering or handling. Just looks odd.

img_2748-jpg.7835462
DOES THIS EFFECT THE ALIGNMENT OR ANYTHING ELSE? THANKS FOR TH PICS AND INFO
 
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