Grenadier winch bumper uk vs australia

[CountyV8]

I was just avving a laff

That vehicle isn't full size

 

[Tazzieman]

That vehicle isn't full size

Windscreen needs to be bigger to match the wipers

 

[Jean Mercier]

But the issue with the winch/steel bumper/roo bar is that the weight is in front of the front axle.

OK, right, I got it!

 

[DaveB]

I was just avving a laff

Well stop that
No jocularity allowed here

 

[Tazzieman]

Well stop that
No jocularity allowed here

Point taken. I'll try to be more serious.

 

[DaveB]

Point taken. I'll try to be more serious.

Your wedding picture looks wonderful

 

[Tazzieman]

Your wedding picture looks wonderful

My wench has approved the winch

 

[Zacman110]

Is that different from this then?
View attachment 7797826

Guess so

 

[ECrider]

My wench has approved the winch

sexist!

 

[Tazzieman]

sexist!

Except sometimes , I play the wench role

 

[ECrider]

wench Wednesdays?

 

[Tinki]

Hi Guys, first post here to try and answer some questions. I work for RED Winches and I have been involved with the winch installation from the very beginning and involved with all the integration testing so hopefully I can answer any questions you may have.
Yes the front crossmember is very different for the ECE models and ROW. Yes it is possible to swap them over and I am told that the parts will be available wherever you are.
Fitting a integrated winch into a modern vehicle and passing safety tests and homologation has been challenging and the engineers at INEOS have worked hard to make this happen.
Yes on the ECE model the winch is set back due to pedestrian safety rules, nothing can be done about this and new Defender is exactly the same but you can still winch up to 45° in any orientation if you need to. If your angle is greater then more complex rigging will be needed to divert the winch line.
Hope this helps. Hit me up if you have any specific questions.

Just sitting here with everything crossed hoping i can order the australian bumper and swap it over . Hopefully the length of unsupported line due to the depth of the winch position does not place a lot of force on the fairlead .

 

[DCPU]

Hopefully the length of unsupported line due to the depth of the winch position does not place a lot of force on the fairlead .

From the photos I've seen the fairlead is attached directly to the front face of the winch, it almost couldn't be closer.

 

[stickshifter]

Hi Guys, first post here to try and answer some questions. I work for RED Winches and I have been involved with the winch installation from the very beginning and involved with all the integration testing so hopefully I can answer any questions you may have.
Yes the front crossmember is very different for the ECE models and ROW. Yes it is possible to swap them over and I am told that the parts will be available wherever you are.
Fitting a integrated winch into a modern vehicle and passing safety tests and homologation has been challenging and the engineers at INEOS have worked hard to make this happen.
Yes on the ECE model the winch is set back due to pedestrian safety rules, nothing can be done about this and new Defender is exactly the same but you can still winch up to 45° in any orientation if you need to. If your angle is greater then more complex rigging will be needed to divert the winch line.
Hope this helps. Hit me up if you have any specific questions.

Hi Brooker78,

Thanks for joining the forum, and for posting here. Most of us here in the U.S. have never heard of Red Winch, so its good to see some company presence on the forum, and a willingness to engage with the public.

The winch being offered with the Grenadier is rated at 5.5 tonnes, so its what we Yanks would call a 12,000 pound winch.

I've got two questions:

(1) What diameter rope comes with the winch that is being offered with the Grenadier?

(2) Does Red Winch provide a breaking strength for the rope? Surprisingly, not all winch manufacturers do, and in the past I've had to upgrade the rope. For a 12,000 pound winch, I would expect the rope to have around 24,000 pounds breaking strength (for safe use with a snatch block).

Thanks in advance.​

 

[Brookers78]

Hi Brooker78,

Thanks for joining the forum, and for posting here. Most of us here in the U.S. have never heard of Red Winch, so its good to see some company presence on the forum, and a willingness to engage with the public.

The winch being offered with the Grenadier is rated at 5.5 tonnes, so its what we Yanks would call a 12,000 pound winch.

I've got two questions:

(1) What diameter rope comes with the winch that is being offered with the Grenadier?

(2) Does Red Winch provide a breaking strength for the rope? Surprisingly, not all winch manufacturers do, and in the past I've had to upgrade the rope. For a 12,000 pound winch, I would expect the rope to have around 24,000 pounds breaking strength (for safe use with a snatch block).

Thanks in advance.​

Great question!
We also believe a rope should have twice the breaking strain of the Winches max pulling capacity.
Integrated winch rope is our 11mm Diameter UHMWPE; rating: 11mm MBS – 11,702kg (25,800Lbs)

 

[Brookers78]

Just sitting here with everything crossed hoping i can order the australian bumper and swap it over . Hopefully the length of unsupported line due to the depth of the winch position does not place a lot of force on the fairlead .

Doesn't matter if it's a ECE or ROW model, both have the winch mounted behind the CMS with the Fairlead mounted on the front side.

 

[CountyV8]

Doesn't matter if it's a ECE or ROW model, both have the winch mounted behind the CMS with the Fairlead mounted on the front side.

CMS??

 

[CountyV8]

From the photos I've seen the fairlead is attached directly to the front face of the winch, it almost couldn't be closer.
View attachment 7797844View attachment 7797846

Picture. 1 what we thought we were getting and picture 2 the plastic we are getting.

 

[stickshifter]

Great question!
We also believe a rope should have twice the breaking strain of the Winches max pulling capacity.
Integrated winch rope is our 11mm Diameter UHMWPE; rating: 11mm MBS – 11,702kg (25,800Lbs)

Thanks for your prompt reply, and for providing such a stout rope!

I've been a Warn guy for 35 years - but I've heard lots of good things about Red Winch.

Is there a way to have a Red Winch serviced in the U.S. ?

 

[Brookers78]

Just sitting here with everything crossed hoping i can order the australian bumper and swap it over . Hopefully the length of unsupported line due to the depth of the winch position does not place a lot of force on the fairlead .

Doesn't matter if it's a ECE or ROW model, both have the winch mounted behind the CMS with the Fairlead mounted on the

Thanks for your prompt reply, and for providing such a stout rope!

I've been a Warn guy for 35 years - but I've heard lots of good things about Red Winch.

Is there a way to have a Red Winch serviced in the U.S. ?

Service will probably be through the INEOS dealer network.