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Grenadier vs 2024 Land Cruiser

Jiman01

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I agree. Hopefully it’s not a hybrid. I also hope you’re grossly misjudging your life span and/or now long you keep your vehicles cause, I have more than a decade on you and I sure as hell hope this isn’t my last ride before I kick the bucket…even with a backup 🤪

I can’t let my wife get off that easy by dying early 😂😂
 
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Another thing on this is the Toyota reliability is basically based on the engine and the BMW is known. The new Toyota hybrids aren’t and while I like the idea of a land cruiser I don’t see how a battery hybrid can last as long. I’m 41 yrs old and the Grenadier could last me the rest of my years (with a backup vehicle). I just don’t have faith in long term ownership of hybrids. I really hope I’m wrong though.
Just to play devil's advocate, the hybrid systems used in the Tundra and Sequoia (same TTV6) are based on the tried and true Prius, which have been very reliable, although it powers through the torque converter (actually a more simple design). The TTV6 in the Tundra, Sequoia and now GX is derived off of the VA35-FTS engine, which has been on the road in Lexus since the 2016 MY with good success (biggest complaint was an error in the software detecting oil consumption that was not occuring). The B58 has only been on the road an additional MY.

I'm not familiar with the 4 Cyl turbo Toyota is using in the new Tacoma is newer, so if that is what gets put in the Land Cruiser time will tell, although Toyota has a history of making bullet proof inline 4 cylinders.

The B58, which may be BMWs best engine to date, is the biggest question mark on the actual build of the Grenadier in my opinion. It is built more solid elsewhere though. I have never been a fan of BMW engines for high mileage reliability, and the resale market tends to agree.

For powertrain reliability, Toyota has a pretty good track record, especially on their Japanese built motors. In tech, trim, frame quality, etc., Toyota has been a mixed bag.
 

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Who is going to watch the Toyota Land Cruiser USA model announcement today?

A nothing burger if it does not have a 6 cylinder turbo!
 

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People use to say that about V8s. It just comes down to the numbers.
Who is going to watch the Toyota Land Cruiser USA model announcement today?

A nothing burger if it does not have a 6 cylinder turbo!
 

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Who is going to watch the Toyota Land Cruiser USA model announcement today?

A nothing burger if it does not have a 6 cylinder turbo!
It’s today? I have t seen anything about it. The rumor I heard was Aug 2 but I haven‘t even heard of anything tomorrow.
 

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It’s today? I have t seen anything about it. The rumor I heard was Aug 2 but I haven‘t even heard of anything tomorrow.
9:20pm Eastern today.

My guess... It is a GX550 with the 4cyl turbo motors out of the 4th gen Tacoma and the 4Runner disappears into the past
 

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My guess... It is a GX550 with the 4cyl turbo motors out of the 4th gen Tacoma and the 4Runner disappears into the past
I agree it will be a new GX sibling, but the 4Runner is a legendary nameplate and I can’t see Toyota just throwing that away. But there certainly isn’t much room for another SUV in their lineup.
 

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A big seller in Australia. I expect the same for the new model. Not my cup of tea.
 

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Should be able to reveal via this link:

This guy needs to hit the Jim or stop using Dart Vader as his vocal coach.
He also needs to learn how to pronounce the name of our National Bird the EMU. It isn't an e-Mooo
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6qaddF8JE4&t=82s
 

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He also needs to learn how to pronounce the name of our National Bird the EMU. It isn't an e-Mooo
And whilst we're correctionalising , just to remind everyone it's route (pronounced root) , not rout as in obliterating your enemy.
Unless you have trouble saying root in public.
 
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It’s just a Prado not a full blown Landcruiser. Care factor = zero
It is effectively a 300 series (well, at least in GX550 trim) as it has the same drivetrain, same wheelbase, etc
 

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And whilst we're correctionalising , just to remind everyone it's route (pronounced root) , not route as in obliterating your enemy.
Unless you have trouble saying root in public.
I had a canadian women working for me in Perth.
I was going into hospital to have both my knees replaced and she announced to everyone that she was "rooting for me"
I suggested she should change that to "hoping all went well" as I was her boss and it may cause me to lose my job and my marriage
 

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I had a canadian women working for me in Perth.
I was going into hospital to have both my knees replaced and she announced to everyone that she was "rooting for me"
I suggested she should change that to "hoping all went well" as I was her boss and it may cause me to lose my job and my marriage
Stony faces around the world reading this
 
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