I find the uniqueness of the Grenadier‘s interior and exterior are more appealing than any other vehicle. I was close to getting the 2023 GX w/V8 but it seemed very ”cookie cutter”.
The 4Runner - to me - seemed to be the more economically priced choice if you want Toyota and off-road. The 4Runner had excellent ground clearance and it was not as high as the 200 LC - which meant the cabin lacked height (compared to a LC). The new LC seems overall a less powerful beast, but if it retains more internal space for passengers - as headroom - that's one way for the new LC to differentiate itself. One of the "luxury" features IMO to a RR and New Defender is the wonderful vertical room in the cabin.Just do not see how the New Four Runner can be made to directly compete with the Land Cruiser now that its a bit more rugged and better priced. But then again I never imagined Toyota would make the move they did with the LC.
No. 1 Rule: Buy what you want.As the date for my Greny gets pushed back further…. It’s going to come down to which one comes first. Your guess is as good as mine.
The ones over here now are all prototypes so will need to see what the real model looks likeWhen I saw in person the new GX I was sorely disappointed in the gauge of the sheet metal they used. I kid you not, a soda can has got to be twice the thickness!! I seriously can see driving down the highway that bugs will leave small dents in the bodywork. Any of you considering the GX do yourself a favor and check for yourself and ask if that is a trait you’d be comfortable with
Yes. Take a tried and true platform, cut costs (and ultimately quality, since it no longer has a 25 year lifespan), and cash in on overland-esque marketing.The new LC throws a monkey wrench into that hierarchy.
That’s a beautyIn this part of the world, the Grenadier competes with the venerable 40-year old design Land Cruiser 70 for a spot as a Overlander type of vehicle!
Especially in the Quartermaster guise.
Freshly updated with a 150kW (frugal) diesel engine and auto box and substantially cheaper (by circa 70%) than the Quartermaster, it offers a long history of toughness and durability.
Also to be had with a 170 kW V6 petrol (gas) engine and a V8 diesel.
This truck sports no ADAS (thank goodness) and has a no-nonsense approach to getting the job done of taking you into the sticks and bringing you back!
Unparalleled reliability!
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In this part of the world, the Grenadier competes with the venerable 40-year old design Land Cruiser 70 for a spot as a Overlander type of vehicle!
Especially in the Quartermaster guise.
Freshly updated with a 150kW (frugal) diesel engine and auto box and substantially cheaper (by circa 70%) than the Quartermaster, it offers a long history of toughness and durability.
Also to be had with a 170 kW V6 petrol (gas) engine and a V8 diesel.
This truck sports no ADAS (thank goodness) and has a no-nonsense approach to getting the job done of taking you into the sticks and bringing you back!
Unparalleled reliability!
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Let's just say I'm 6'3 and I don't want to sit in the back!!How's the rear seat leg room? The rear door looks mighty small.
If this was sold in the US (even at Grenadier price), I wouldn't have a Grenadier.In this part of the world, the Grenadier competes with the venerable 40-year old design Land Cruiser 70 for a spot as a Overlander type of vehicle!
Especially in the Quartermaster guise.
Freshly updated with a 150kW (frugal) diesel engine and auto box and substantially cheaper (by circa 70%) than the Quartermaster, it offers a long history of toughness and durability.
Also to be had with a 170 kW V6 petrol (gas) engine and a V8 diesel.
This truck sports no ADAS (thank goodness) and has a no-nonsense approach to getting the job done of taking you into the sticks and bringing you back!
Unparalleled reliability!
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If this was sold in the US (even at Grenadier price), I wouldn't have a Grenadier.
Wish Toyota would have brought those to the USA!In this part of the world, the Grenadier competes with the venerable 40-year old design Land Cruiser 70 for a spot as a Overlander type of vehicle!
Especially in the Quartermaster guise.
Freshly updated with a 150kW (frugal) diesel engine and auto box and substantially cheaper (by circa 70%) than the Quartermaster, it offers a long history of toughness and durability.
Also to be had with a 170 kW V6 petrol (gas) engine and a V8 diesel.
This truck sports no ADAS (thank goodness) and has a no-nonsense approach to getting the job done of taking you into the sticks and bringing you back!
Unparalleled reliability!
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Wish we could buy those in the US - maybe you can fax one to me!In this part of the world, the Grenadier competes with the venerable 40-year old design Land Cruiser 70 for a spot as a Overlander type of vehicle!
Especially in the Quartermaster guise.
Freshly updated with a 150kW (frugal) diesel engine and auto box and substantially cheaper (by circa 70%) than the Quartermaster, it offers a long history of toughness and durability.
Also to be had with a 170 kW V6 petrol (gas) engine and a V8 diesel.
This truck sports no ADAS (thank goodness) and has a no-nonsense approach to getting the job done of taking you into the sticks and bringing you back!
Unparalleled reliability!
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It is only 70% cheaper if you do not include the new canopy, new rims all round, a suspension upgrade and what looks like a new exhaust on that vehicle.In this part of the world, the Grenadier competes with the venerable 40-year old design Land Cruiser 70 for a spot as a Overlander type of vehicle!
Especially in the Quartermaster guise.
Freshly updated with a 150kW (frugal) diesel engine and auto box and substantially cheaper (by circa 70%) than the Quartermaster, it offers a long
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