Grenadier Spotted

[IG_in_AZ]

The challenge should rather be to make the Software do what it's supposed to do.

I'm pretty sure SAP does back office software (tracking parts and expenses) rather than automotive onboard systems. Just guessing. I was forced to use SAP in my Border Patrol job tracking fuel and maintenance costs for fleet vehicles. I am not a fan.

 

[scottyboy436]

Seen onto in Elgin, Scotland , was blue .

First one I've seen in person

 

[emax]

I'm pretty sure SAP does back office software

Exactly. That's what it is about.

Invoices, vehicle documents, data for the web front-end, none of those things really seemed to work well so far.

typo​

 

[Clark Kent]

Well hello, Sela Green at Girraween National Park Queensland on Sunday 1st October. Your EB stablemate stopped to say Hi

 

[Phud]

A light blue, driving past Lidl, Helston, think he was as shocked as I was in the Britannia blue one.

Got a wave and a grin in

 

[Mercurio]

Houston Texas!!
Any events going on that I don’t know about??
The driver seem to be wearing a ineos shrt. The truck has north Caroline plates.

 

[klarie]

Exactly. That's what it is about.

Invoices, vehicle documents, data for the web front-end, none of those things really seemed wo work well so far.

This is called IS A VMS. Industry Solution Automotive- Vehicle Management System.. used by almost all vendors and developed together with Automotive Associations. The problem is to configure it properly. This however is usually not done by SAP but by a subject matter specialist. This is usually a consulting company providing the required skill.. and free of choice by automotive company.

 

[Shaky]

If you want to see a Grenadier in the wild just go to Abersoch in Wales.

Normally about 6 floating around at any one time, considering the place has a population of a few thousand people it’s not hard to see them.

Apart from there I have only seen one other on the road near Shrewsbury.

I actually commented when I drove from Birmingham to Bristol on the M5, that there and back I saw a sum total of zero IG’s on the motorway or anywhere else tbh.

 

[Steveo]

Spotted a Scottish White TrialMaster at the Woolies roundabout in Emerald Vic on Saturday. Gave them a big wave from my D4.
If it's you, please PM me!

 

[trobex]

Saw my 1st actual on the road GREN today on the Gold Coast - Hope Island area. Wife said to me, really, you can tell that from so far away!!!

 

[Simon C]

Dark green one on the M25 anticlockwise passing the Leatherhead junction today - of course as usual I was not in mine at the time!

 

[Voader - Oudersopzwier]

Had to do a lot of work and delivery’s around Brussels this week. Every day we spotted car transports in the opposite direction with each 4 grenadiers on transport towards the port of Zeebrugge. So for the guys out there, waiting for their Grenadier. Hang on, they are coming!!!!

 

[Voader - Oudersopzwier]

Spotted this nice one on the round way in Lier (Belgium). If the owner is on this forum, please give me sign!

 

[AWo]

Germany, North-Rhine-Westphalia, motorway A4 heading Cologne, near junction Gummersbach 15:40, silver, just reaching the end of a traffic jam.

AWo

 

[AnD3rew]

I'm pretty sure SAP does back office software (tracking parts and expenses) rather than automotive onboard systems. Just guessing. I was forced to use SAP in my Border Patrol job tracking fuel and maintenance costs for fleet vehicles. I am not a fan.

SAP is as good as the people configuring it and using it. If there is a criticism, it is that it isn’t plug and play, it requires a lot of setting up and configuring to get it to do the things you want it to do. There are a lot of SAP consultants out there, they are not all created equal.

 

[Jean Mercier]

SAP is as good as the people configuring it and using it. If there is a criticism, it is that it isn’t plug and play, it requires a lot of setting up and configuring to get it to do the things you want it to do. There are a lot of SAP consultants out there, they are not all created equal.

I was not a SAP consultant or expert, but was once involved in a SAP implementation for the Belgian railways as a maintenance expert (what I was, I am retired now). I had access to the "sand box" or how was it called, in fact the playground of the "almost" working system.

I was trying to find a solution, for a typical maintenance management problem (allocating costs from a workshop to another cost center or something like that, I don't remember exactly, but it was a bit more complex).

The SAP consultant told me this was impossible, and I thought: "this should be possible".

Playing around I found the solution, and I told him I had "the" solution. He said, "impossible". Didn't want to look.

I called his boss:

• "But Jean this is impossible" (the other guy was also present and had a big grin on his face - we didn't like each other)
• Me to his boss: "You have 5 minutes?"
• He: "yes"
• I did set up the solution, step by step
• He: "waw, didn't know that"
• The other guy walked away

SAP is very powerful, but often not configured as it should be: pressure of deadlines, junior consultants, lack of expertise, ...

 

[AnD3rew]

I was not a SAP consultant or expert, but was once involved in a SAP implementation for the Belgian railways as a maintenance expert (what I was, I am retired now). I had access to the "sand box" or how was it called, in fact the playground of the "almost" working system.

I was trying to find a solution, for a typical maintenance management problem (allocating costs from a workshop to another cost center or something like that, I don't remember exactly, but it was a bit more complex).

The SAP consultant told me this was impossible, and I thought: "this should be possible".

Playing around I found the solution, and I told him I had "the" solution. He said, "impossible". Didn't want to look.

I called his boss:

• "But Jean this is impossible" (the other guy was also present and had a big grin on his face - we didn't like each other)
• Me to his boss: "You have 5 minutes?"
• He: "yes"
• I did set up the solution, step by step
• He: "waw, didn't know that"
• The other guy walked away

SAP is very powerful, but often not configured as it should be: pressure of deadlines, junior consultants, lack of expertise, ...

Yep

 

[Walter Z]

I was not a SAP consultant or expert, but was once involved in a SAP implementation for the Belgian railways as a maintenance expert (what I was, I am retired now). I had access to the "sand box" or how was it called, in fact the playground of the "almost" working system.

I was trying to find a solution, for a typical maintenance management problem (allocating costs from a workshop to another cost center or something like that, I don't remember exactly, but it was a bit more complex).

The SAP consultant told me this was impossible, and I thought: "this should be possible".

Playing around I found the solution, and I told him I had "the" solution. He said, "impossible". Didn't want to look.

I called his boss:

• "But Jean this is impossible" (the other guy was also present and had a big grin on his face - we didn't like each other)
• Me to his boss: "You have 5 minutes?"
• He: "yes"
• I did set up the solution, step by step
• He: "waw, didn't know that"
• The other guy walked away

SAP is very powerful, but often not configured as it should be: pressure of deadlines, junior consultants, lack of expertise, ...

I used to work at a SAP Training organization and I totally agree with you. The SAP system is too big to be configured. The result is very much based on the consultant's or the project manager's experience.
For the same reason the SAP company often 'steal' experienced experts from their customers after the implementation of the system...lol

 

[Eric]

I was not a SAP consultant or expert, but was once involved in a SAP implementation for the Belgian railways as a maintenance expert (what I was, I am retired now). I had access to the "sand box" or how was it called, in fact the playground of the "almost" working system.

I was trying to find a solution, for a typical maintenance management problem (allocating costs from a workshop to another cost center or something like that, I don't remember exactly, but it was a bit more complex).

The SAP consultant told me this was impossible, and I thought: "this should be possible".

Playing around I found the solution, and I told him I had "the" solution. He said, "impossible". Didn't want to look.

I called his boss:

• "But Jean this is impossible" (the other guy was also present and had a big grin on his face - we didn't like each other)
• Me to his boss: "You have 5 minutes?"
• He: "yes"
• I did set up the solution, step by step
• He: "waw, didn't know that"
• The other guy walked away

SAP is very powerful, but often not configured as it should be: pressure of deadlines, junior consultants, lack of expertise, ...

And budget constraints of the user, big companies always think they have a cheaper solution, which then requires more expertise to sort it out.

 

[emax]

Consultants can only configure what

• the customer has defined, including requirement engineered documentation
• he (the consultant) has understood
• is possible

The first part depends on how they work together. In most cases, an expert in the analysis of the respective business processes needs to find out how the customer's company works and then create documents for the system to be configured (requirement engineering). Some consultants (can) do both, but in more complex scenarios there is often a group of analysts and configuration engineers.

If there is even one single weak or faulty link in this chain, the entire “solution” can fail.

So it's not so easy to just refer to SAP or to the customer. It's a team job. But what I have often experienced is that the customer was simply unable to present a clear definition of their processes. Simply because these processes were not “designed” but have grown over the years.

And that’s why “garbage in, garbage out” applies.

I worked for German air traffic control. The software I worked on was the workstation software for air traffic controllers, the visualization of the radar echoes and the flight vectors that you so often see in films or documentaries.

I was amazed when I saw the configuration system. It contains around 100,000 (no typo) different parameters. With this concept you can control planes in the sky, planes and vehicles on the apron and, if desired, even city buses on their route through the city. The visualization looks completely different for each type of realization. But it's just a configuration matter, the software doesn't need to be changed.

But for a newbie, there is not the slightest chance of configuring even a single parameter without knowing the side effects that this will cause, because the dependencies are so diverse.

That's why the most important skill he needs is: experience.


Dubai Airport, approach and departure airspaces in a very basic configuration