Front drive shaft broken

[PDX_Keith]

According to some digging I did today, there is no new part number

It's probably in the new fiche where it lists "Repair and wiring diagrams for customer's"

 

[AWo]

Has the part number for the front driveshaft changed for 2025 to confirm a possible upgrade? I doubt IA would offer any free upgrades for pre-2025 models (at least I’d be shocked if they did) but maybe for those who recently suffered failures might get one?

It would not be the first time that IA ignores that a new or changed part should get a new part number. They already created some mess by not doing so.

Hopefully they have learned.

AWo

 

[Zimm]

Seems like creating a new part number could be documented evidence the last part was insufficient to the task of the lift they green lighted, and would increase liability for covering the 3000 lifts people put on.

 

[C-Mack]

I would have to assume a new part number would be mandatory should any revision to an exist production component occur simply for tracking information related to source vendor used, design specification changes, costing of new part, production batch tracking, VINs of vehicles the revised component has been installed into, etc…

Not using a new part number would create considerable liability issues should the new part be subject to a recall after causing accidents or injures and Ineos could not identify the exact parts impacted. Lawyers would be all over that sort of ambiguity if push came to shove during an injury lawsuit.

At a minimum they could use the existing part number but it would have to be documented in their production and logistic systems with a revision number. Likewise, the vendor (assuming the same one is used) for producing the part would have to insist on a new reference part number so they can keep the new version straight in their own ERP/Logistic systems for all the same liability reasons.

 

[AWo]

I would have to assume a new part number would be mandatory should any revision to an exist production component

Check the two versions of the headlights. At least in the begining they had the same number. That led to both version in one car, as it was posted here already....of course, at some point only the new version was shipped and mounted....

AWo

 

[HereinDaRockies]

Well the oem boot flakes off these hard plastic coating. Just brushing it with my finger tip results in that external layer cracking and falling onto the ground.

What is the coating on the driveshaft boot?

 

[TCMColorado]

The headlights were changed from V1 to V2? When did this occur?

 

[ADVAW8S]

You could have the same parts but the design is different. I listen to the podcast and I enjoyed it. Interesting conversation around the response by auto writers.

 

[AWo]

The headlights were changed from V1 to V2? When did this occur?

Thread 'Headlight Recall'

Aug 6, 2023

I was contacted by my agent yesterday in order to arrange a few minor fixes. While on the phone discussing everything IG and giving my largely positive feedback, the agent mentioned that there is currently a “check” being done on all cars that go back in on the headlights and that certain cars are being held until further instruction from Ineos. I was surprised by this and actually wonder if it might be that the headlights are too bright? I have noticed nothing wrong with my lights, my only observation is that they are mega bright and very good for country lane night driving. I hope they...

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• Forum: Electrical, ECU, HVAC, Lights & Infotainment

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AWo

 

[TCMColorado]

Thread 'Headlight Recall'

Aug 6, 2023

I was contacted by my agent yesterday in order to arrange a few minor fixes. While on the phone discussing everything IG and giving my largely positive feedback, the agent mentioned that there is currently a “check” being done on all cars that go back in on the headlights and that certain cars are being held until further instruction from Ineos. I was surprised by this and actually wonder if it might be that the headlights are too bright? I have noticed nothing wrong with my lights, my only observation is that they are mega bright and very good for country lane night driving. I hope they...

• JOB
• Replies: 67
• Forum: Electrical, ECU, HVAC, Lights & Infotainment

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AWo

Thanks. It seems this was fully sorted before Ineos made the first deliveries to the US.

 

[bamanuke]

As a side note, I'm not yet convinced that there isn't a problem with the compound used on the Ineos boot. Or possibly there is a heat issue. Or maybe a bit of both. My Terra Flex version of the joint is holding up well with no signs of failure yet.

mine also, just over 9000 miles on the Terra Flex, 99% "on road". inspect it every 2-3 weeks.

 

[GN4HIR]

My lifted IG is in the shop for various minor warranty items and a $900 oil change. I have a stock loaner. Would they notice if it didn't have a front drive shaft when I returned it? We have a LOT of catalytic converter thefts in Houston, I could probably blame them. I plan to quiz them on what they have seen / heard about this issue from corporate.

 

[Dokatd]

My lifted IG is in the shop for various minor warranty items and a $900 oil change. I have a stock loaner. Would they notice if it didn't have a front drive shaft when I returned it? We have a LOT of catalytic converter thefts in Houston, I could probably blame them. I plan to quiz them on what they have seen / heard about this issue from corporate.

It's not necessary to keep a spare drive shaft. At least not in regards to this problem. Sure you could damage the shaft on a rock, but that might be a bit over prepared in my opinion.

Rather, buy a couple of the Terra flex joints as spares. They are small and fairly light in comparison to a whole shaft. Now the problem is the stock joints on the IG have a crimped end cap and different bolt heads. So you will need the tool for the IG bolts. Also and more importantly you will need a battery powered grinder or worst case maybe a hack saw so that you can open the end cap of the stock joint to remove the retaining clip.

The new terra flex joints are fully serviceable, so once you change to the terra joint you will no longer need the grinder/hack saw. This could also apply to the tool for the bolts assuming you switch over to the terra bolts.

I will say it's a messy job so be sure to have a box of shop towels on hand. Great part is if your front or rear shaft fails all you really need to do is remove what's left of it and engage the center diff lock. Now you can drive to safety and repair your shaft at the hotel or home. You can drive indefinitely with one drive shaft.