Front drive shaft broken

[Zimm]

Well, it's kind of understandable to a degree. They currently lack some of the required fixturing. I have offered to front the money to buy what's needed. Conversations are still being had.

They make crap for every brand out there, I though. I have one in my 40 since I 5 speed swapped it. What about this is causing an issue? I'd expect they had all the apparatus they needed, and the hold up would be lack of potential market.

 

[Dokatd]

They make crap for every brand out there, I thought. I have one in my 40 since I 5 speed swapped it. What about this is causing an issue? I'd expect they had all the apparatus they needed, and the hold up would be lack of potential market.

The pinion side is the primary problem. For practical purposes it needs to remain a Rezeppa joint. Tom Woods does not have the capabilities to build and balance a shaft with a Rezeppa.

 

[Dokatd]

As a side note, I'm not yet convinced that there isn't a problem with the compound used on the Ineos boot. Or possibly there is a heat issue. Or maybe a bit of both. My Terra Flex version of the joint is holding up well with no signs of failure yet.

 

[Zimm]

The pinion side is the primary problem. For practical purposes it needs to remain a Rezeppa joint. Tom Woods does not have the capabilities to build and balance a shaft with a Rezeppa.

I never really moved off of anything more then 50mm needing a cut and turn for reliability. I just don't see it happening from anecdotal experience, but, I'm open to rooting for good attempts. I didn't buy this rig planning on 37's anyway, so I'm not that disappointed.

 

[anand]

For what it's worth apparently there's a large name Jeep drive shaft company that has a front driveshaft that's been tested on the Grenadier, I'll try to have specifics this week; but from what I was told this weekend it is near or ready for sale.

 

[Clark Kent]

For what it's worth apparently there's a large name Jeep drive shaft company that has a front driveshaft that's been tested on the Grenadier, I'll try to have specifics this week; but from what I was told this weekend it is near or ready for sale.

There's also the DC shaft that @Bodhi’s Grenadier was testing. Haven't heard much from him recently.

 

[Dokatd]

There's also the DC shaft that @Bodhi’s Grenadier was testing. Haven't heard much from him recently.

All the same unit. Tom Woods has actually discussed the situation with the same company out of Cali. Woods buys parts and certain assemblies from them and collaborates on stuff. It's a fairly small world.

Last report from Bodhi was that the DDC shaft was vibrating. Same report came from the guy in Australia IIRCC. This is going to pretty much 100% be the case on a full time 4wd with two double Cardans. The tolerance for the centering ball is just not there.

 

[Zimm]

The unit that was made in France was reportedly also vibrating and it didn’t utilize adapters.

 

[PDX_Keith]

I listened to the Expedition Portal podcast today about the IG and Scott said that the 2025's that are built after the production pause have a new front drive shaft with a CV that has a higher articulation angle. Can anyone confirm that? Evidently they're offering fixes.

View: https://youtu.be/vLOskm23730?si=MuDcw0erJkKtoEIT

 

[C-Mack]

Has the part number for the front driveshaft changed for 2025 to confirm a possible upgrade? I doubt IA would offer any free upgrades for pre-2025 models (at least I’d be shocked if they did) but maybe for those who recently suffered failures might get one?

 

[anand]

Has the part number for the front driveshaft changed for 2025 to confirm a possible upgrade? I doubt IA would offer any free upgrades for pre-2025 models (at least I’d be shocked if they did) but maybe for those who recently suffered failures might get one?

According to some digging I did today, there is no new part number

 

[PDX_Keith]

According to some digging I did today, there is no new part number

It's probably in the new fiche where it lists "Repair and wiring diagrams for customer's"

 

[AWo]

Has the part number for the front driveshaft changed for 2025 to confirm a possible upgrade? I doubt IA would offer any free upgrades for pre-2025 models (at least I’d be shocked if they did) but maybe for those who recently suffered failures might get one?

It would not be the first time that IA ignores that a new or changed part should get a new part number. They already created some mess by not doing so.

Hopefully they have learned.

AWo

 

[Zimm]

Seems like creating a new part number could be documented evidence the last part was insufficient to the task of the lift they green lighted, and would increase liability for covering the 3000 lifts people put on.

 

[C-Mack]

I would have to assume a new part number would be mandatory should any revision to an exist production component occur simply for tracking information related to source vendor used, design specification changes, costing of new part, production batch tracking, VINs of vehicles the revised component has been installed into, etc…

Not using a new part number would create considerable liability issues should the new part be subject to a recall after causing accidents or injures and Ineos could not identify the exact parts impacted. Lawyers would be all over that sort of ambiguity if push came to shove during an injury lawsuit.

At a minimum they could use the existing part number but it would have to be documented in their production and logistic systems with a revision number. Likewise, the vendor (assuming the same one is used) for producing the part would have to insist on a new reference part number so they can keep the new version straight in their own ERP/Logistic systems for all the same liability reasons.

 

[AWo]

I would have to assume a new part number would be mandatory should any revision to an exist production component

Check the two versions of the headlights. At least in the begining they had the same number. That led to both version in one car, as it was posted here already....of course, at some point only the new version was shipped and mounted....

AWo

 

[HereinDaRockies]

Well the oem boot flakes off these hard plastic coating. Just brushing it with my finger tip results in that external layer cracking and falling onto the ground.

What is the coating on the driveshaft boot?

 

[TCMColorado]

The headlights were changed from V1 to V2? When did this occur?

 

[ADVAW8S]

You could have the same parts but the design is different. I listen to the podcast and I enjoyed it. Interesting conversation around the response by auto writers.

 

[AWo]

The headlights were changed from V1 to V2? When did this occur?

Thread 'Headlight Recall'

Aug 6, 2023

I was contacted by my agent yesterday in order to arrange a few minor fixes. While on the phone discussing everything IG and giving my largely positive feedback, the agent mentioned that there is currently a “check” being done on all cars that go back in on the headlights and that certain cars are being held until further instruction from Ineos. I was surprised by this and actually wonder if it might be that the headlights are too bright? I have noticed nothing wrong with my lights, my only observation is that they are mega bright and very good for country lane night driving. I hope they...

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