Americas Don't buy a Grenadier (Steering pump noise and HVAC issues)

[Trialmaster]

I assure you we did far in excess of 5mph (motorway speeds), they weren't really missing anything physically (other than the jacks, which were oddly removed; and the winch controllers which were erroneously removed by the company that stored the vehicles); their software was definitely not up to snuff (especially not the 3 or 4 that never got the software update to enable Android Auto/Carplay/etc.) and there were an amalgamation of Euro/US spec (through an odd mix of left over RoW PTO parts).

The vast majority of oddities that they had were rectified before production (either before MY23 RoW production or MY24 North American production), and while a number of parts were updated prior to production, they function/appear the same to the end user (like the overhead panel that was originally held in just with clips, but they added bolts before production).

The drivetrain was well sorted by the time the North American PTO2 trucks were assembled (however, they did have the early/initial transfer case)

Mate - you are wasting your time, some people have already made up their minds and are now trolling to vent their spleen.

I have said it before, but I have had enough of these Forums, there are some fantastic people out there, who share their adventures and discus their positive upgraded and then we have these W 's.

So if a moderator sees this and doesn't like my view, then please message me.

 

[Skydance]

Interesting, so not a perceived reduction due to you becoming desensitized to it?

I would say no in my case as I often jump from my Suzuki Jimny (old school hydraulic), to my van (electric power steering) and then this at the weekends. 7500 miles, and steering is loosening up and the power steering noise is getting less noisy. Obviously, It’s still there if you go looking for it, but it’s a beast of a thing every time I drive it.

 

[Marc G]

That is quite strange @IdahoGrenadier . I had the same problem albeit not as intrusive as what you describe. I first thought it was the AC, but the dealer told me problem with the pump and they are replacing it. Maybe formally complain to Ineos directly?

Howdy @Jeroendecker, following up on your post. Did you get the pump replaced? Did it make any difference?

 

[ECrider]

The steering noise gets quieter after a few thousand miles. Mine was super loud when I first bought it but it gradually got quieter.

Is it because your tyres are getting louder

 

[Skydance]

Is it because your tyres are getting louder

Must admit, my hearing is getting worse

 

[HereinDaRockies]

We've done trail drives here and I think mine was louder than most. Now it's probably midpoint or quieter than most. It sounds like a newer Jeep. And the idea that a $90k truck sounds like a POS Jeep is pretty ridiculous.

Some of them really do not make much noise, but I'm convinced most of the people who say they don't hear it just don't drive with their windows down. It's the number one thing people notice about the vehicle when it's turned on. At a traffic light with other cars around or - god forbid - a parking garage and it overpowers any other thought.

If you want it replaced, you can keep pushing your dealer. It might improve things, but don't expect it to sound like a car should.

It sounds like you went through the dance of this issue initially being dismissed as normal operation. How did you eventually get this approved as warranty work? Did you have to align with the dealership on some qualitative threshold of acceptable wine volume or real world use case, such as non-audible wine during window-down driving?

 

[IdahoGrenadier]

It sounds like you went through the dance of this issue initially being dismissed as normal operation. How did you eventually get this approved as warranty work? Did you have to align with the dealership on some qualitative threshold of acceptable wine volume or real world use case, such as non-audible wine during window-down driving

Like with all car warranty issues, I bitched enough publicly enough and they took care of me. Neither their service guy nor I were thrilled with the results, but it did get better enough I don't feel angry while driving.

 

[Jackattack13]

Finally back into my own vehicle after living with the loaner for 5 weeks. Mine is noticeably louder than the loaner was. I didn't really notice the loaner whining noise as much, but as soon as I got back into mine I noticed it was much more audible.

 

[Grenadian]

I think one has to register IdahoGrenadiers disappointment and frustration. Most of us are having very little problem but for those that have spent the same amount of money and received a very different experience, it must be gruelling, especially if being ignored by Ineos. I would be tempted to try out a different dealer. They should know if it is normal or not. My vehicle makes no noises that I wouldn’t expect.

I think one has to register IdahoGrenadiers disappointment and frustration. Most of us are having very little problem but for those that have spent the same amount of money and received a very different experience, it must be gruelling, especially if being ignored by Ineos. I would be tempted to try out a different dealer. They should know if it is normal or not. My vehicle makes no noises that I wouldn’t expect.

I think one of the purposes of this forum is to be positive - to raise such issues, to fix them, and to exchange correct information.

 

[emax]

Doolin? Irish music in Fitz Pub?

AWo

Schauschau.

Da muss ich unbedingt mal hin. Ich liebe diese Musik - und auch das Bier.

Ist notiert.