So, so close, yet so so far. The switch panel is an integrated circuit. The manual key is nothing but a push button without the button. They’ve made it hard to do any diy switch work or electrical outside the provided switches if you optioned them.
I actually died inside a little when I found out that the switches weren't hard wired and actually rely on an integrated circuit.
I know nothing of custom PCB's, But wouldnt that be sweet to take advantage of that, and replace the dash with one 1/2 the height, and create a couple din slots for.. cubbys, or switches, or a ham, or anything your little heart desires? the sheer amount wasted real estate is incredible.
This seems pretty neutral to me? Are you upset by this conversation?
No just the fact the op is complaining about a business trying to make a bit of money off his bad decision. I don't think asking for 8/9k more than he sold it for is bad , also was his choice to let all the extras go.
I think you’re missing the point here. Hard people don’t want things they need a laptop to fix. And no those of us that ordered these pre production certainly did not know about all the electronics. We’re talking about these soft handed glove wearing switches for people who can’t handle turning mechanical heat controls that are too soft for actual working mechanical devices. I think you’re missing the point. And no one should take a 20k haircut for their trouble. It’s unfortunate the OP has had so many issues. I sympathize with the guy. I thought this thread was pretty normal banter to be honest.
Can't solve issues without addressing them. Although I kinda like my PCB idea as I'm struggling to find homes for things I want. Of course all I know about pcb's is you change them when they break, and when something expensive dies, its the part no longer made that forces my customers to buy a new one and pay me to replace the entire system.... Planned obsolescence bought my Grenadier. 
Are you hard? Are you rock hard?
It's not the 80s/90s now if you really expected it then more fool you. The grenadier was released in the UK long before being available over in the USA and Canada , so plenty time to do some research on the PCB etc . Can't blame ineos for this guy's bad financial choices. I do feel sorry for him that the car couldn't be as good as some others in this forum. It's not really banter though. He did his final write up which is fair but he just can't seem to let go
He's in Scotland. His Avatar picture is the sunniest day of his life, and he's smarting over the battle of falkirk.
Well your opinion is your own. I do agree they missed the mark. And did not live up to their marketing. Regardless I still feel this is banter.
Personal digs now...
I agree with all this statement , with the amount of switches the car has either way would be a complex system
Also looks like a dogs breakfast
I personally do not mind the looks, but leagues behind the Grenadier in that arena. The point is that it is possible to make a vehicle in 2024 with bare bones options. Ineos just chose not to. I think there is a large group of us on here that would buy a bare bones model (myself included) if they were to make one.
Its not what Im into to be fair. I get it's bare bones but its most likely easier due to the fact it's a older model car being released in the 80s , same with the old defender it was a older model car with very bare bone features in the early 2010s. I just think ineos has tried to find a happy medium between serious offroader and a general every day car
You don’t need to change the switch. I made a post about how to make that start/stop situation be less of a nuisance. Push the switch in and put a little shim on the underside to keep it depressed. It stays off until you decide to remove the shim. I have had zero adverse effects. The start stop has remained off.
