Batch and hold

[alvan]

Any of you knows how many cars are in a batch of a "batch and hold"?

 

[trobex]

No, just a lot on hold... it would seem!

 

[alvan]

Let me know if I'm wrong... I guess that batch & hold means that they produce a certain number of cars and put them in hold until they are tested thoroughfully. After testing they will introduce the solutions to the problems that could be emerged.
Is that a right interpretation? And how long a similar procedure will take? And the batch are country selected? Lot of questions, due to the waiting obsession...

 

[Tom D]

I can’t help feeling that there’s more to it than just testing. There must be and issue that is waiting to be resolved…

 

[G-Man]

Any of you knows how many cars are in a batch of a "batch and hold"?

Currently all of them

 

[bemax]

As there are obviously more than 1000 cars built by now and no known customer has his car by now you can assume that there are more than a 1000 „batch and hold“ vehicles produced. Do to say all produced cars are b&h

 

[alvan]

I am amazed by the incredible financial strength of Ineos. After the colossal investment, not putting even one of the 1,000 cars already built up for sale is an incredible act of force. I just hope that such seriousness will pay off and not end up being a problem. The trend, especially in Europe, towards electric cars etc, risks with each passing day of making the life of a new car with an internal combustion engine difficult... I understand that even the spread of news about problems would make the operation even more difficult, but I think the time has come to leave the floor to the owners too...

 

[trobex]

Waiting for an update on anything... from IA. Just anything but there is no alternative - I feel like a pig in a cage being fed by the master... when is my next meal!!

 

[Pipm4000]

I am amazed by the incredible financial strength of Ineos. After the colossal investment, not putting even one of the 1,000 cars already built up for sale is an incredible act of force. I just hope that such seriousness will pay off and not end up being a problem. The trend, especially in Europe, towards electric cars etc, risks with each passing day of making the life of a new car with an internal combustion engine difficult... I understand that even the spread of news about problems would make the operation even more difficult, but I think the time has come to leave the floor to the owners too...

It’s not that much, 50,000,000 euros without tax, the issue is the on going cost of production with no sight of income

 

[Spaniel]

Any of you knows how many cars are in a batch of a "batch and hold"?

Just to let you know I had a call today to say my Grenadier had arrived at the agents and SW update to be done next week . Going to see it in the flesh tomorrow. Finally they may now start to be released.

 

[DenisM]

Great news Spaniel, "Enjoy!!"
Actually.... this means "we who also wait" will be able to badger you with questions as well as Jean Mercier!
The forum chatter was that "things" might happen in March....
It's March... things are happening.... but it's not the "Ides of March"...well not yet!

 

[Eric]

Are you going to beat @Jean Mercier for having it on the road and in YOUR drive?

 

[ECrider]

are they all on trickle chargers or do they have the battery(s) disconnected these 1000's of idle Grennies?

 

[Eric]

are they all on trickle chargers or do they have the battery(s) disconnected these 1000's of idle Grennies?

That will probably mean a software update after the battery is reconnected. - Haven't we been here before

 

[DCPU]

It’s not that much, 50,000,000 euros without tax, the issue is the on going cost of production with no sight of income

Hambach does have income though ~ last reported at €70 million.

 

[Eric]

Hambach does have income though ~ last reported at €70 million.

Na.. the coffee machine doesn't make that much! So I presume it is the Smart Car Division

 

[AWo]

Just imagine there are problems, are the dealer and workshop guys are educated on the Grenadier, do they have their diagnostics gear ready and stand-by to help? Has anyone asked that at their dealership?

Cheers
AWo

 

[ECrider]

@Halliwell Jones Chester

i know Steve is busy but incase have time can you give us your view on the above ques from AWo?

 

[DCPU]

Just imagine there are problems, are the dealer and workshop guys are educated on the Grenadier, do they have their diagnostics gear ready and stand-by to help? Has anyone asked that at their dealership?

Yes.

From social media it's evident that there have been various rounds of training on the technical side. Both home and away.

The Ineos tech team have even been getting their training in too:

 

[DaveB]

It’s not that much, 50,000,000 euros without tax, the issue is the on going cost of production with no sight of income

Remember that they are manufacturing Smart cars for Mercedes at the factory still