Any contracts signed in 2023?

[DaveB]

Meanwhile today, I just watched some damselflies having afternoon sex, and went for a run after.
Not much I can do to save the world or indeed , speed up my contract...

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Slightly disturbing
Glad you went for a run instead of a shower

 

[Tazzieman]

Slightly disturbing
Glad you went for a run instead of a shower

Does birds and bees talk embarrass you Dave?
I'm a Dr , you can talk to me
Entomology can be a hobby you know , and tie in with remote adventuring.

 

[globalgregors]

It concerns me when business and politicians get church representatives involved in decisions.
We have finally hit less than 50% of our population claiming to have any religious affiliation.
hopefully by next census that will have dropped below 30%

In Germany, churches continue to collect tithes and fulfil an institutional role in the delivery of social services that is rather handled in Australia by government (and NGOs). Their role in the consultation mentioned I suspect is of an institutional not pastoral nature. But otherwise totally, yes - the whole ScoMo/Hillsong thing is alarming.

 

[Tazzieman]

And we are back to politics and religion!

 

[DaveB]

Does birds and bees talk embarrass you Dave?
I'm a Dr , you can talk to me
Entomology can be a hobby you know , and tie in with remote adventuring.

Not at all but when you say you watched a couple of dragon flies having sex and then went for a run it kind of sounds a bit like you had a choice of a shower or a run

 

[globalgregors]

I started a consulting company back in 2004 and after bidding on several contracts I was told I wasn't charging enough.
They said at my prices nobody would take me seriously.
I upped my charges to $1,100 a day (remember 2004 money) and started to charge for travel, meals, accommodation etc.
I charged $4,500 to give a 2 hour presentation to an annual meeting, plus costs, and then the board of directors asked me to stay and listen to the state managers presentations and give my feedback.
For an extra $1,500
I charged $6,500 plus costs to fly to Thailand for 4 days to negotiate a supply agreement
The more consultants charge the better they are perceived to be.

In Saudi I worked alongside a former US Marine, who on this matter once offered: “some fighters don’t know they’re in the ring until their nose is bleeding”.
Is it about the consultant being better, or is it more a matter of jacking up the value at risk until someone gives a f*ck?

 

[globalgregors]

And we are back to politics and religion!

Yeah, sorry. If it’s not obvious I’m also desperately impatient to take delivery. I’ll go read a book.

 

[Jean Mercier]

I’ll go read a book.

Title of the book: "Grenadier User Manual"

 

[globalgregors]

Title of the book: "Grenadier User Manual"

Bugger you lot, I’ll go make my own Grenadier

 

[ECrider]

Meanwhile today, I just watched some damselflies having afternoon sex, and went for a run after.
Not much I can do to save the world or indeed , speed up my contract...

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pervert!

 

[bemax]

I am not convinced that the delays are only due to legal reasons - contracts etc.

We know that all PTO and test drive vehicles were operated without functioning airbags and lockers. That was the case until the end of 2022. So obviously Ineos couldn't test those parts.

Now there are rumors that a certain firmware in the cars, especially related to the airbags, is the culprit. I'm not surprised by that. It looks like the company had - for whatever reason - delayed airbag testing too long, and now they're footing the bill. There could be other problems, too, but it's the airbag thing in particular that's leaked to the public.

I imagine that since airbags are a very critical component for various reasons (explosives ...), they are subject to intensive testing and approval procedures. And the moment a government agency is involved, you can just forget about any timeline.

Everything else - international contracts and global rollout - may be new to Ineos Automotive, but not to Ineos. I suspect that Ineos has a worldwide network of the best lawyers that can be afforded, and they would of course act for Ineos Automotive for a fee if it were necessary.

But the approval process for a product is a regulatory thing, there's nothing you can do about it. I once built a house. With an approval process that is actually a purely routine matter. But it took months to get through the regulatory process, and there was just nothing I could do but wait.

If an airbag system doesn't work properly or there's a tiny error, if even an indicator light doesn't light up properly, the thing hangs with the authorities and many tasks in the process have to be worked through from the beginning.

The lockers worked in my PTO2 test drive! Not very fast but they did!

 

[BD1]

I am not convinced that the delays are only due to legal reasons - contracts etc.

We know that all PTO and test drive vehicles were operated without functioning airbags and lockers. That was the case until the end of 2022. So obviously Ineos couldn't test those parts.

Now there are rumors that a certain firmware in the cars, especially related to the airbags, is the culprit. I'm not surprised by that. It looks like the company had - for whatever reason - delayed airbag testing too long, and now they're footing the bill. There could be other problems, too, but it's the airbag thing in particular that's leaked to the public.

I imagine that since airbags are a very critical component for various reasons (explosives ...), they are subject to intensive testing and approval procedures. And the moment a government agency is involved, you can just forget about any timeline.

Everything else - international contracts and global rollout - may be new to Ineos Automotive, but not to Ineos. I suspect that Ineos has a worldwide network of the best lawyers that can be afforded, and they would of course act for Ineos Automotive for a fee if it were necessary.

But the approval process for a product is a regulatory thing, there's nothing you can do about it. I once built a house. With an approval process that is actually a purely routine matter. But it took months to get through the regulatory process, and there was just nothing I could do but wait.

If an airbag system doesn't work properly or there's a tiny error, if even an indicator light doesn't light up properly, the thing hangs with the authorities and many tasks in the process have to be worked through from the beginning.

Awaiting US Gov't approval is why I am very doubtful we will see 2023 deliveries here in the US. Even if it is going well it always takes longer when working with our govt. And all it takes is one issue to create a significant delay. My company does work for the Veteran's Administration and it always takes longer than scheduled to get approvals, new contracts signed, etc.

 

[Tazzieman]

Not at all but when you say you watched a couple of dragon flies having sex and then went for a run it kind of sounds a bit like you had a choice of a shower or a run

No but whilst I was nature watching, my wife walked a big circuit of the local reserve and to meet her back at the car in a timely fashion I decided to do the long uphill run.
I am in training after all

 

[Tazzieman]

pervert!

Or citizen scientist People who stare at birds are perverts. You know who you are

 

[emax]

The lockers worked in my PTO2 test drive! Not very fast but they did!

Maybe I was wrong with the lockers. But I remember they couldn't be used for quite some time - or weren't fitted at all.

 

[DaveB]

Maybe I was wrong with the lockers. But I remember they couldn't be used for quite some time - or weren't fitted at all.

The ones I drove they weren't fitted

 

[DenisM]

Or citizen scientist People who stare at birds are perverts. You know who you are

There's a recent contribution to the "Chuckle in your day" thread concerning people who stare at people who in turn stare at birds....

 

[beanohallett]

Has anyone been swept away with an avalanche of contracts this week??

 

[ECrider]

nein

 

[grenadierboy]

Has anyone been swept away with an avalanche of contracts this week??

Not yet - but on 26 January INEOS advised me my car was produced on 25 January.

Then on Saturday, I received an email from INEOS saying my contract will be sent by end of January or early February.