What did you do with your Grenadier today?

Fitted a spoiler after having it repainted - comes in gloss black only, but I had it repainted matte black which I prefer. Vehicle performance not enhanced (), but it did rain last night and there were no annoying drips when I opened the rear doors - love it just for that

@Bobby Mac : I'm most interested in this in terms of the spoiler's impact on airflow.
As it stands, square box shape creates a large area of low pressure which in turn, not only causes drag, but increases the accumulation of rain water/mud/dust etc. on the rear windows and back doors generally.
Your spoiler might just be sufficient to smooth the airflow and reduce the low pressure area. Various Toyotas, Subaru Impreza etc seem to have incorporated a similar idea in their SUV/hatchback designs to varying degrees...


PS: I like the spare tyre cover.... I assume it's a bespoke job?

DenisM said:

@Bobby Mac : I'm most interested in this in terms of the spoiler's impact on airflow.
As it stands, square box shape creates a large area of low pressure which in turn, not only causes drag, but increases the accumulation of rain water/mud/dust etc. on the rear windows and back doors generally.
Your spoiler might just be sufficient to smooth the airflow and reduce the low pressure area. Various Toyotas, Subaru Impreza etc seem to have incorporated a similar idea in their SUV/hatchback designs to varying degrees...


PS: I like the spare tyre cover.... I assume it's a bespoke job?

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Yes, my own design manufactured by https://sparewheelcovers.com.au/ - great people to deal with.

Bobby Mac said:

Fitted a spoiler after having it repainted - comes in gloss black only, but I had it repainted matte black which I prefer. Vehicle performance not enhanced (), but it did rain last night and there were no annoying drips when I opened the rear doors - love it just for that

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Neat job with te spoiler. Di you fabricate it yourself...? and how is it attached to the vehicle?

ECrider said:

Neat job with te spoiler. Di you fabricate it yourself...? and how is it attached to the vehicle?

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Found it at …. https://expeditionhq.com.au/product/rear-spoiler-ineos-grenadier-wagon/
Attached by double sided tape supplied with it.

Did a GREAT six day trip paralleling the Continental Divide Trail (CDT) walking trail on a series of unimproved roads and trails. It was an awesome route. https://goo.gl/maps/rYYzLtG9Uw5wSMkeA?g_st=a

Perfect time to go as the aspen trees were yellow. From the dessert trails from New Mexico’s Pie Town up to pine and blue spruce covered mesa of Mt Taylor and La Mosca Lookout in the Cibola and Carson National Forests, up into Colorado and Rio Grande National Forest and the South San Juan Wilderness. Saw moose, wild turkeys, deer and a mountain goat. Had great time exploring the features of the Grenadier and finally was able to get all three of my lockers activated (a couple of times and they really helped). Got used to using the downhill assist, ‘Goat Mode’ as I called it, and what a super useful feature. Made coming down some pretty scary trails I had barley crawled up a LOT less scary. The Grenny performed great except at high altitudes (11,000 -12,000+ ft) when the temperature was stuck on 27-degree F and the AC and Heater would not activate and the pitch and roll gauges would not calibrate. Once I was back to under 11k ft it all went back to normal. I’ve got a case started at the dealer to see what happened. I really could have used the pitch and roll on the most technical trails I’ve been on at those higher altitudes.

4x4Brick #1561 said:

Did a GREAT six day trip paralleling the Continental Divide Trail (CDT) walking trail on a series of unimproved roads and trails. It was an awesome route. https://goo.gl/maps/rYYzLtG9Uw5wSMkeA?g_st=a

Perfect time to go as the aspen trees were yellow. From the dessert trails from New Mexico’s Pie Town up to pine and blue spruce covered mesa of Mt Taylor and La Mosca Lookout in the Cibola and Carson National Forests, up into Colorado and Rio Grande National Forest and the South San Juan Wilderness. Saw moose, wild turkeys, deer and a mountain goat. Had great time exploring the features of the Grenadier and finally was able to get all three of my lockers activated (a couple of times and they really helped). Got used to using the downhill assist, ‘Goat Mode’ as I called it, and what a super useful feature. Made coming down some pretty scary trails I had barley crawled up a LOT less scary. The Grenny performed great except at high altitudes (11,000 -12,000+ ft) when the temperature was stuck on 27-degree F and the AC and Heater would not activate and the pitch and roll gauges would not calibrate. Once I was back to under 11k ft it all went back to normal. I’ve got a case started at the dealer to see what happened. I really could have used the pitch and roll on the most technical trails I’ve been on at those higher altitudes.

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Howdy, I was out and about in my area again. I pay attention to noises, visual signs, vibrations, temperatures etc. All things that are mentioned in the various threads here in the forum. Because I'm happy to help with my experiences. Even if it's just a confirmation of a phenomenon. However, I have to say that I haven't had any critical problems with my Grenadier for months. That's why I can't confirm many things about my Grenadier. Good for me, sorry to those who have the problem. I hope there is a way for you to work out the bugs.
So, now I'm going to go back and not worry about anything, but listen to my digitised tapes from the 80s. And so I can still listen to my favourite AFN radio station today with "American Country Countdown".

holdmybeer said:

Yes, Eldoret Blue is faster on pavement. Sela Green performs better off-road. Jury is still out on the advantage of Queen’s Red.

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Queens Red jumps higher and is normally a little bit quieter than Magic Mushroom

Terrorizing brookies on the Driftless - or giving them a good laugh. Ended up having a good chat with the farmer about the Grenadier while I drank my coffee just at sunrise.

The Driftless is a special place holding the lovely Brookies to enjoy. I was in Wisconsin fishing there in May and had a blast. It used to be a lot closer when I lived in Wisconsin Rapids but now it’s a bit of a drive from Clarkdale, AZ. But I’m learning our own mountain streams and the native Gila Trout instead of Brookies.

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Moved it from the work bench to the top of the safe. Swapped a trigger out in a CMMG Banshee and I didn't want to knock it off.

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Like the orange accents

Spent a couple of hours yesterday getting the Grenadier muddy as part of a joint off road day with Peak 4x4 Response and Leicestershire & Rutland 4x4 Response at Stainby Quarry. Lots of sticky mud, deep tramlines, tight corners, various water hazards and some abrupt gradient changes.



(The series in the background has a convoluted history, cast from the RAF as an 88in diesel used in a bomb dump, it now has a petrol engine, but retains its RAF front bumper).


The rear guard is not ideal - it picked up a lot of grass on my trip around the site, however the front stayed quite clean. Getting out of ruts was not easy, the relatively small wheels and tyres don't help, but it is a good compromise for UK conditions. Ultimate traction was limited by the tyres, (only to be expected), vehicles on dedicated mud tyres were unstoppable, (but you really would not want to drive them any distance on the road).

All in all, an interesting afternoon, compared to my departed LR110CSW, the Grenadier was much easier to drive, with the extra power and the auto box. Had one participant jeering about how expensive and complex the Grenadier is, so I pointed out that the gizmos were all to make it legal to sell now, that no new Defenders were on site and his Porsche had not left the grass car park.

Had a great day surf fishing (not catching), and got the Grenny out on the beach on Absecon Island. Beautiful day.

Local dealer hosts a regular "Trucks & Trees" event. I forgot to count but eight or ten Grenadiers showed up. The drive, weather, scenery and new friends were all really nice. Can't beat fire and hot dogs next to a lake. Thanks to Mark & Darren & Weissach for organizing!

Preparing for the impending hurricane that will land on Wednesday. ~600 lbs of sand bags this load.

For those that travel the big rivers out West or live in hay country...



Finished dimensions are 27" across the top and 26" at the bottom. Height is 25" (635mm). Carry the top dimension down about 8-10" before subtly tapering in to the lower width.

I have been hanging these in front of our radiators for decades and never had an issue with overheating. Simple to make from fiberglass window screen material (fly screen). Just fold over a few times and sew up the edges. I used to set grommets in them but found that running a few strategically placed bar tacks and poking holes with an awl works just as well. Use zip ties to make loops and attach to whatever is convenient. They last at least a decade (or two) and bugs, small debris, and mud hose off easily. A couple of months back in one of our other vehicles we hit a huge swarm of bees in low light (I thought it was a dust devil until too late). We killed literally hundreds if not a thousand. Easy clean up a couple of days later when I had access to a hose and no bug parts wedged into the fins on the AC condenser, intercooler, or radiator. Good as new-ish.

On the Grenadier (petrol models only) open the hood and remove the top plate that connects between the radiator and the plastic front grill. There's about twelve bolt/screws to remove. The hood latch mechanisms at each side will stay in place - no worries. You won't be able to completely remove the cover/plate because there's a sizable wiring harness attached to the underside but there is enough room to slip the screen down into place in front of the AC condenser/radiator and then loosely zip tie it to the harness so that it hangs down. I used a total of five zip ties across the top. Nimble fingers help.

At the bottom you'll need to remove the front bash plate. Tuck the lower end of the screen behind the small air dam that seems tight against the lower edge of the radiator. It's flexible. There are relief cuts in the dam that make it easy to use a screen with the lower dims I listed. A single loose zip tie about four or five inches in from the ends can easily attach to the lower radiator isolators. The screen should be a little bit loose to avoid tearing on any sharp metal or plastic edges. Bolt up the bash plate and top cover and you're done.

(I'm not sure why the photo looks so rumply - I didn't sweat the craftsmanship but I wasn't being careless. I swear. Meh, no one will ever see it anyway.)

Brought the bird along
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Last weekend we met up with logsplitter, his wife and Liberty . It was so much fun.

IGL said:

Last weekend we met up with logsplitter, his wife and Liberty . It was so much fun.

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very cool.