Air conditioning - heating

KDJDGrenadier · Oct 10, 2023

grenadierboy said:
Unbelievable - I got the opposite on Monday..

Early morning drive - bit chilly - put the temp control on 21C, auto & aircon - got super hot air blowing...and blowing....and blowing.

After 10 minutes with the system not picking up it was about 35C inside the cabin and sweat forming on my forehead - turned the temp control down to 19C but no, hot air continued to blow for another 5 minutes until I turned the system off and dropped the windown down.

I have had my airco do a similar thing early on in my ownership. We travelled on the highway about an hour drive and on the return journey, for no apparent reason, the aircon went hot. Since then I leave it midway and don't touch it. Not sure why it did it. So far the issue has not returned

YIPPE · Oct 20, 2023

I find my auto setting functioning perfectly, this is for cold air. My heater worked too a few weeks back at koziosko when they had snow but wasn't on for a long time
One thing that has happened to me....
Today the computers malfunctioned, no Speedo no revs no gear displayed nothing correctly working. This was for a short drive 1km, It then reset itself whilst driving. Going blank and turning back on. In this time both my wife and I received about 2-3 drops of water in footwell. Airconditioning set to auto also jumped around At the same time as screen.
Never had water in footwells before. About 2000km driven with air-conditioning on.
Could be pure coincidence but very strange.

globalgregors · Oct 20, 2023

YIPPE said:
I find my auto setting functioning perfectly, this is for cold air. My heater worked too a few weeks back at koziosko when they had snow but wasn't on for a long time
One thing that has happened to me....
Today the computers malfunctioned, no Speedo no revs no gear displayed nothing correctly working. This was for a short drive 1km, It then reset itself whilst driving. Going blank and turning back on. In this time both my wife and I received about 2-3 drops of water in footwell. Airconditioning set to auto also jumped around At the same time as screen.
Never had water in footwells before. About 2000km driven with air-conditioning on.
Could be pure coincidence but very strange.

Bugger me, I think I know what that was:

Trialmaster · Nov 24, 2023

The Grenadier, doesn’t give any heat to your feet when selected after trying all methods (AC and none AC). Needed as the outside temperature drops. Just asked my agent and hopefully he will know how to fix it.

Anyone else managed to get it fixed?

Mitchell300 · Nov 24, 2023

My heating has always worked fine since taking delivery in June. Had the software update last week. Last night passenger side nice and warm drivers side no warm air. It did start to let some warm air through but wasn’t consistent. I need to play about with it before contacting the dealer.

Rab · Nov 24, 2023

I had cold feet today so spent half an hour this afternoon figuring the heating out.

Seems to be if you hit the auto button it sends air out of every orifice (regardless of where the right hand dial is set) to give you an ambient cabin temperature set by the central temperature dial.
But if your feet are cold then set the right hand dial to feet and balance the fan and temperature dials to suit (leave the auto button off), just give the system time to move its internal diverters about after you move the right hand dial.

The system had an abundance of easily controlled heat using this method.

Murray2105 · Nov 25, 2023

Did someone mention outside temperature display? I can’t find it.

Clark Kent · Nov 25, 2023

Murray2105 said:
Did someone mention outside temperature display? I can’t find it.

This one Muz?

Wilaspira · Nov 25, 2023

For what it’s worth my heating does not work (and I’m not convinced the air con does what it should albeit this has not been tested exhaustively so it might be).

In summary, passenger side front possibly gets a little heat when temp set to max (with or without air con on and irrespective of which vent) but it’s not obvious. We concluded it was a possible because the driver’s side front seemed even colder (ie absolutely no heat). Interestingly the rear vents do seem to work and a proper flow of warm/hot air does seem to come out of these. Why would this be? Is there a valve/valves that is/are stuck shut or are they not opening because it‘s not getting any electronic message that it should be open or might it be something else?

chrsbe · Nov 25, 2023

Trialmaster said:
The Grenadier, doesn’t give any heat to your feet when selected after trying all methods (AC and none AC). Needed as the outside temperature drops. Just asked my agent and hopefully he will know how to fix it.

Anyone else managed to get it fixed?

1) All of you who have issues. Go to your dealer and they should make a ticket to Ineos. Otherwise Ineos does not know that shit is hitting the fan. And if they don't know they're not gonna fix it.
2) My dealer told me it is a known issue. The procedure according to Ineos is that they are checking several things including fill level of the aircon fluid. If it is still shitty then they will replace a pump. Mine will be replaced soon...

Trialmaster · Nov 25, 2023

chrsbe said:
1) All of you who have issues. Go to your dealer and they should make a ticket to Ineos. Otherwise Ineos does not know that shit is hitting the fan. And if they don't know they're not gonna fix it.
2) My dealer told me it is a known issue. The procedure according to Ineos is that they are checking several things including fill level of the aircon fluid. If it is still shitty then they will replace a pump. Mine will be replaced soon...

Done - all I was told was to select Max Heat and Feet and to try AUTO on Max Heat. This was the advice from Ineos.......yes really

Are we all that stupid, that we don't how to select Heat?

I believe it's a Software reprogramme.

James · Nov 25, 2023

chrsbe said:
1) All of you who have issues. Go to your dealer and they should make a ticket to Ineos. Otherwise Ineos does not know that shit is hitting the fan. And if they don't know they're not gonna fix it.
2) My dealer told me it is a known issue. The procedure according to Ineos is that they are checking several things including fill level of the aircon fluid. If it is still shitty then they will replace a pump. Mine will be replaced soon...

There’s definitely this issue, with either gas or functioning of the AC; there is also an issue with the inability of the auto function to work effectively. For me it works very crudely, cannot maintain anything like a sensible temperature range, but can correct extreme differences between cabin and external, and really never manages gentle heat. Other people seem to have no heating, or no auto functioning.

so, as well as aircon gas/pump problems, my guess is that there are issues with the sensor placement or quality, or with the software.
I am expecting a fix, hoping it doesnt require burrowing into the dash….

chrsbe · Nov 25, 2023

James said:
There’s definitely this issue, with either gas or functioning of the AC; there is also an issue with the inability of the auto function to work effectively. For me it works very crudely, cannot maintain anything like a sensible temperature range, but can correct extreme differences between cabin and external, and really never manages gentle heat. Other people seem to have no heating, or no auto functioning.

so, as well as aircon gas/pump problems, my guess is that there are issues with the sensor placement or quality, or with the software.
I am expecting a fix, hoping it doesnt require burrowing into the dash….

You are right. It looks like there is more to it than just a faulty pump. Has your dealer made a ticket at ineos?

James · Nov 25, 2023

chrsbe said:
You are right. It looks like there is more to it than just a faulty pump. Has your dealer made a ticket at ineos?

The car is going in to them next week; Ill ask them directly (they know, I dont know if they’ve specifically raised a ticket).
I am both very happy, and confident in the Sydney agent, purnell, they seem consistently to be on top of the admittedly evolving knowledge base, and transparent when there’s a known issue.

chrsbe · Nov 25, 2023

James said:
The car is going in to them next week; Ill ask them directly (they know, I dont know if they’ve specifically raised a ticket).
I am both very happy, and confident in the Sydney agent, purnell, they seem consistently to be on top of the admittedly evolving knowledge base, and transparent when there’s a known issue.

Please let us know what they say.

Krabby · Nov 26, 2023

Lots of folks have had issues or general disappointment with the HVAC system. Obviously NA deliveries are just getting underway, so we’ll wait to see there. But this is one thing that seems IA dropped the ball on big time. Knobs and dials have successfully controlled automotive HVAC systems for decades - I think in an effort to seem “upscale” they lost their way a bit.

Shopkeep · Nov 26, 2023

FWIW I have had no issues with the aircon, auto setting seems to function fine. It has been reasonably sunny and quite humid (for Melbourne) for the last couple of weeks. Only item of note is when the car and system first starts a small amount of fog/mist appears on the windscreen where the vents blow onto it but this quickly clears. Have not needed to use heating yet.

Murray2105 · Nov 26, 2023

Clark Kent said:
This one Muz?

Thanks but mine shows the time.

21DFND · Nov 26, 2023

My Heater has not worked properly since the day I got it in June. It has been back to Purnell 4 times to try and fix it, Inoes tells them that it's an air blockages in the heater circuit, they have even replaced the electric water pump for the heater circuit. They can get it to work after bleeding it several time in the workshop, it works for that day I drive it back home. A few days later on the weekend when I drive it, not working again. Contacted Purnell 2 weeks ago after the last time it was there and have yet to hear back from them.

trobex · Nov 26, 2023

Here is another oddity. When I first collected my truck, the no.1 fan setting seemed reasonable and it did push enough air to cool the car. Then at week 2 the no.1 fan setting for some reason barely blew a breathe out... and so I had to run no.2 fan setting just to cool the car at the minimum. Then this week for no reason that I can see, the no.1 fan setting is back to its proper self and pushing a good amount of air out enough to cool the vehicle. What the...

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