On the Road - Initial Thoughts

lightning said:

Maybe that could be an option on the Grenadier, for those who want better self centering.

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lightning said:

On my old Defender l fitted an RTC steering damper and it made the steering self centre a lot more like a car.

lt also improved straight line driving but that isn't an issue with Grenadier.

Maybe that could be an option on the Grenadier, for those who want better self centering.

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DCPU said:

Does anyone not?

I think it may be a way to go ~ I've never had need for one before, so would like to see if there's a solution that goes more to the issue rather than reducing the symptoms.

I'd like to solve this, and whilst thinking about the axles perhaps look more into the propshaft angles together.

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lightning said:

On my old Defender l fitted an RTC steering damper and it made the steering self centre a lot more like a car.

lt also improved straight line driving but that isn't an issue with Grenadier.

Maybe that could be an option on the Grenadier, for those who want better self centering.

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• Car has exceeded my impressions in terms of solidity, road presence and general cool factor
• Everyone says it, but yup, this thing is a tank. It looks like one and feels like one.
• Fit and finish is overall very good...quite superb for a first vehicle by ineos
• Software update was completed prior to me picking up so no dings, warnings etc. of any kind
• I am getting a slight rattle/resonance on initial acceleration and at a specific rev range- I will investigate various heat shields before reporting this as an issue
• Engine is a bit noiser than I was expecting, a real old sounding diesel! I did expect it to be a bit more refined but it's not a dealbreaker by any means. I wonder if it will bed in a bit over time. Cars with stainless steel exhausts can be quite noisy until they carbon up.
• It takes a bit of coaxing to get the car moving off the line....gas pedal feels a little bit unresponsive but fine once you are moving
• Footwell....Not a problem for me, but I can see why it will be for some. Nothing to do with height or width, it's just the length that you are robbed of. Just about every post on this has been wrong and have been emphasising the wrong problem!
• Steering...actually quite fun...don't really know why some complain, it suits the car and after a couple of hrs you get tuned into it.
• Best door handles of any car on earth.....seriously, they are awesome!
• Water pooling! It rained a lot last night and when I started driving this morning there were rivers of water flowing from various places on the roof down the windscreen and side windows (outside fortunately) it took a few mins for the water to finally drain. Not sure if this is an issue at all, it just hasn't happened on any other vehicle I've owned.
• Avergage full consumption was 11.6l/100km...not too bad for a brand new car. I expect it will improve.
• Aircon works really well....no issues
• All accessories were delivered with the car, except picnic table and "RECOVERY KIT"
• Overall, very happy with this machine. It's a really unique vehicle and definitely fit for purpose.
• Had a few people approach me already to ask about the car

stuart1927 said:

I picked up my Grenadier from Armstrongs in Auckland yesterday. It's a diesel trialmaster (that thinks it's a fieldmaster!)
Had a nice drive down to New Plymouth (a 4 hr drive) so had time to get some pretty good first impressions on a range of roads, from highway to twisties.

• Car has exceeded my impressions in terms of solidity, road presence and general cool factor
• Everyone says it, but yup, this thing is a tank. It looks like one and feels like one.
• Fit and finish is overall very good...quite superb for a first vehicle by ineos
• Software update was completed prior to me picking up so no dings, warnings etc. of any kind
• I am getting a slight rattle/resonance on initial acceleration and at a specific rev range- I will investigate various heat shields before reporting this as an issue
• Engine is a bit noiser than I was expecting, a real old sounding diesel! I did expect it to be a bit more refined but it's not a dealbreaker by any means. I wonder if it will bed in a bit over time. Cars with stainless steel exhausts can be quite noisy until they carbon up.
• It takes a bit of coaxing to get the car moving off the line....gas pedal feels a little bit unresponsive but fine once you are moving
• Footwell....Not a problem for me, but I can see why it will be for some. Nothing to do with height or width, it's just the length that you are robbed of. Just about every post on this has been wrong and have been emphasising the wrong problem!
• Steering...actually quite fun...don't really know why some complain, it suits the car and after a couple of hrs you get tuned into it.
• Best door handles of any car on earth.....seriously, they are awesome!
• Water pooling! It rained a lot last night and when I started driving this morning there were rivers of water flowing from various places on the roof down the windscreen and side windows (outside fortunately) it took a few mins for the water to finally drain. Not sure if this is an issue at all, it just hasn't happened on any other vehicle I've owned.
• Avergage full consumption was 11.6l/100km...not too bad for a brand new car. I expect it will improve.
• Aircon works really well....no issues
• All accessories were delivered with the car, except picnic table and towing kit
• Overall, very happy with this machine. It's a really unique vehicle and definitely fit for purpose.
• Had a few people approach me already to ask about the car

So all very positive after 1 day. Hopefully I can resolve the resonance issue and get more used to the drivetrain dynamics after more driving.

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stuart1927 said:

I picked up my Grenadier from Armstrongs in Auckland yesterday. It's a diesel trialmaster (that thinks it's a fieldmaster!)
Had a nice drive down to New Plymouth (a 4 hr drive) so had time to get some pretty good first impressions on a range of roads, from highway to twisties.

• Car has exceeded my impressions in terms of solidity, road presence and general cool factor
• Everyone says it, but yup, this thing is a tank. It looks like one and feels like one.
• Fit and finish is overall very good...quite superb for a first vehicle by ineos
• Software update was completed prior to me picking up so no dings, warnings etc. of any kind
• I am getting a slight rattle/resonance on initial acceleration and at a specific rev range- I will investigate various heat shields before reporting this as an issue
• Engine is a bit noiser than I was expecting, a real old sounding diesel! I did expect it to be a bit more refined but it's not a dealbreaker by any means. I wonder if it will bed in a bit over time. Cars with stainless steel exhausts can be quite noisy until they carbon up.
• It takes a bit of coaxing to get the car moving off the line....gas pedal feels a little bit unresponsive but fine once you are moving
• Footwell....Not a problem for me, but I can see why it will be for some. Nothing to do with height or width, it's just the length that you are robbed of. Just about every post on this has been wrong and have been emphasising the wrong problem!
• Steering...actually quite fun...don't really know why some complain, it suits the car and after a couple of hrs you get tuned into it.
• Best door handles of any car on earth.....seriously, they are awesome!
• Water pooling! It rained a lot last night and when I started driving this morning there were rivers of water flowing from various places on the roof down the windscreen and side windows (outside fortunately) it took a few mins for the water to finally drain. Not sure if this is an issue at all, it just hasn't happened on any other vehicle I've owned.
• Avergage full consumption was 11.6l/100km...not too bad for a brand new car. I expect it will improve.
• Aircon works really well....no issues
• All accessories were delivered with the car, except picnic table and towing kit
• Overall, very happy with this machine. It's a really unique vehicle and definitely fit for purpose.
• Had a few people approach me already to ask about the car

So all very positive after 1 day. Hopefully I can resolve the resonance issue and get more used to the drivetrain dynamics after more driving.

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stuart1927 said:

I picked up my Grenadier from Armstrongs in Auckland yesterday. It's a diesel trialmaster (that thinks it's a fieldmaster!)
Had a nice drive down to New Plymouth (a 4 hr drive) so had time to get some pretty good first impressions on a range of roads, from highway to twisties.

• Car has exceeded my impressions in terms of solidity, road presence and general cool factor
• Everyone says it, but yup, this thing is a tank. It looks like one and feels like one.
• Fit and finish is overall very good...quite superb for a first vehicle by ineos
• Software update was completed prior to me picking up so no dings, warnings etc. of any kind
• I am getting a slight rattle/resonance on initial acceleration and at a specific rev range- I will investigate various heat shields before reporting this as an issue
• Engine is a bit noiser than I was expecting, a real old sounding diesel! I did expect it to be a bit more refined but it's not a dealbreaker by any means. I wonder if it will bed in a bit over time. Cars with stainless steel exhausts can be quite noisy until they carbon up.
• It takes a bit of coaxing to get the car moving off the line....gas pedal feels a little bit unresponsive but fine once you are moving
• Footwell....Not a problem for me, but I can see why it will be for some. Nothing to do with height or width, it's just the length that you are robbed of. Just about every post on this has been wrong and have been emphasising the wrong problem!
• Steering...actually quite fun...don't really know why some complain, it suits the car and after a couple of hrs you get tuned into it.
• Best door handles of any car on earth.....seriously, they are awesome!
• Water pooling! It rained a lot last night and when I started driving this morning there were rivers of water flowing from various places on the roof down the windscreen and side windows (outside fortunately) it took a few mins for the water to finally drain. Not sure if this is an issue at all, it just hasn't happened on any other vehicle I've owned.
• Avergage full consumption was 11.6l/100km...not too bad for a brand new car. I expect it will improve.
• Aircon works really well....no issues
• All accessories were delivered with the car, except picnic table and towing kit
• Overall, very happy with this machine. It's a really unique vehicle and definitely fit for purpose.
• Had a few people approach me already to ask about the car

So all very positive after 1 day. Hopefully I can resolve the resonance issue and get more used to the drivetrain dynamics after more driving.

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bigleonski said:

What do you mean by “towing kit” missing?

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grenadierboy said:

The hitch & electrics for towing?

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bigleonski said:

Surely that’s a factory fit?

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bigleonski said:

What do you mean by “towing kit” missing?

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bigleonski said:

What do you mean by “towing kit” missing?

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ECrider said:

Congratulations and awesome colour combo. I have serious chequer plate envy!

If you get a chance could you have a feel under the bonnet wings and advise if you can feel/see any reinforcement under the chequer? My wings are very soft in the middle. (no chequer plate option in UK).

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hopefulkiwi said:

very happy that you finally have it Stuart I like your colur combo it is one of my choices

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• Have the 'vibration' issue at around 1800 rpm which equated to 103 km/h in 8th gear(speed limit in New Zealand 100 km/h) so far from ideal. Vibration felt through steering wheel, pedals, and door arm rest, quite loud too.
• Got my feet washed as it had rained overnight and door seals retained about a litre, also had a bunch pooling on the roof.
• 'Cooling Fan Error' the only warning, but the fan definitely not working. Luckily a cool day and warning only happened twice, once while stationary waiting for roadworks, and second time up a steep hill behind a slow truck. Each time pulled over, engine off, enjoy the view and then start again which cleared the warning. Checked the temperatures both times. Engine temp stayed spot on 90 degrees, but engine oil got up to 116 degrees. Gearbox steady at 96 degrees.
• Window wipers are optimised for LHD not RHD. An area about the size of an A4 piece of paper does not get wiped in the bottom right of the window. The area is big enough to be a problem, especially if you want to see just to the right of the right fender.
• The occasional clunk from the suspension, probably the springs re-centering in the cones, but still unnerving.
• Steering quite vague. Constant corrections required. Was getting used to it by the end of the day, but definitely needs improving.

• Overall build quality seems solid. Great chunky doors with plenty of elbow resting space (especially after owning several Defenders/Series).
• Infotainment system worked well, Apple Car play all good and Siri also good.
• Seat comfortable, and 'foot rest' not an issue at all. I'm 185cm (6'1") and built like a rugby prop and didn't have any pressure points or sore joints after 9 hours in the seat.
• Power delivery is a bit slow, but then is linear, with gear changes almost imperceptible.
• 11.9 litres/ 100km, but a few good hills and only 200km on the odo at the start of the day.
• Visibility is good, the raised air intake cannot be seen at all behind the A pillar. A slight blind spot behind the B pillar meaning I had to lean forward at intersections to see traffic approaching from the right.
• Super happy with the Queens Red, it's darker in person, and can almost look black in certain light. Still amazed only 3% of total orders are in this colour.
• Dealers, Armstrongs Christchurch, have been very good.