Drive shafts maintenance

ORSO · Apr 11, 2023

Hi, I know well the land drive shafts with cardon joint and greaseable crosses.

Those of the Ineos looks different. They looks homocynetic. Are they greaseable?

With the automatic gearbox, how can you put the vehicle in neutral to make them turn?

Thanks.

DenisM · Apr 12, 2023

I think you may be referring to a "homokinetic" or "constant velocity" joint? They are enclosed in a rubber boot with grease and do not require regular lubrication so long as the boot is intact and properly sealed ...

Traffic · Apr 12, 2023

That recent video with those South African guys (descriptive I know) asked about flat towning. The Ineos rep mentioning a 13mm bolt on the transfer case would disengage the drive shafts.

DenisM · Apr 12, 2023

Traffic said:
That recent video with those South African guys (descriptive I know) asked about flat towning. The Ineos rep mentioning a 13mm bolt on the transfer case would disengage the drive shafts.

There's ref. to this on p117/118 of the English version of the Owner's Manual. In addition to unlocking the centre diff with the transfer case "neutralisation bolt" , both front and rear drive shafts have to be disconnected for longer tows!

AZGrenadier · Apr 12, 2023

That is disappointing.

DenisM · Apr 12, 2023

AZGrenadier said:
That is disappointing.

Seems to be the case for most auto transmission 4wds...

CountyV8 · Apr 12, 2023

you could always pop it in car wash mode a la manual

DCPU · Apr 12, 2023

DenisM said:
There's ref. to this on p117/118 of the English version of the Owner's Manual. In addition to unlocking the centre diff with the transfer case "neutralisation bolt" , both front and rear drive shafts have to be disconnected for longer tows!

It's odd it has a warning about removing the propshafts but does not mention them in the actual procedure for towing?

I would have thought just disconnecting them at the axle ends and securing them safely would be enough.

Also if the propshafts are removed then why is the towing distance limited to not
more than 3 miles (5 km)?

And if the propshafts are removed why bother with neutrals on gearbox and transfer case?

Logsplitter · Apr 12, 2023

DCPU said:
It's odd it has a warning about removing the propshafts but does not mention them in the actual procedure for towing?

I would have thought just disconnecting them at the axle ends and securing them safely would be enough.

Also if the propshafts are removed then why is the towing distance limited to not
more than 3 miles (5 km)?

And if the propshafts are removed why bother with neutrals on gearbox and transfer case

Good point

AZGrenadier · Apr 12, 2023

In the first video Q&A they said it could be flat towed. I specifically asked the question. There are plenty of automatic vehicles that can be flat towed 4 wheels on the ground. I have to say I am disappointed if it requires more than sticking it in neutral.

ORSO · Apr 12, 2023

ok, but how long will the original propshaft grease last?
sooner or later they will have to be greased, but how often?

Traffic · Apr 12, 2023

ORSO said:
ok, but how long will the original propshaft grease last?
sooner or later they will have to be greased, but how often?

Probably about as long as the grease in 4runners front half shafts. About 150k miles, and then only because the boots deteriorated.

Mr. Largo WINCH · Apr 12, 2023

Bonjour à tous
Il semble que les Grenadier en version Trialmaster soient équipés de protection de pont et de plaques de protection de la transmission

Arrière

Avant

Ces protections ne semblent pas être en place sur la version Fieldmaster.
Est-ce confirmé ?

DCPU · Apr 13, 2023

I believe that they are are just early prototypes for the additional protection that was planned to come out in August:

https://www.theineosforum.com/threads/chassis-pictures.12410611/page-3#post-1333157799

DCPU · May 14, 2023

Photo of front prop shaft:

I was slightly surprised to see the angle the differential nose makes with the propshaft, especially as the axle appears to pointed downwards and so making the join angle greater?

Logsplitter · May 14, 2023

DCPU said:
Photo of front prop shaft:
View attachment 7811768
View attachment 7811770
I was slightly surprised to see the angle the differential nose makes with the propshaft, especially as the axle appears to pointed downwards and so making the join angle greater?

View attachment 7811772

Different to a defender no UJ’s so no greasing

bemax · May 14, 2023

Does that mean that the angel would become less steep when the car would get a lift?

DenisM · May 14, 2023

I'm wondering if they're full CV joints, in which case the angle becomes less significant.

ECrider · May 14, 2023

that is a jaunty angle. agree maybe CV.

ORSO · May 14, 2023

bemax said:
Does that mean that the angel would become less steep when the car would get a lift?

it depends on how the 4 link works

it is however strange that it points downwards

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