Sick of waiting

painter · Mar 17, 2023

To said:
Don't annoy Sir Jim too much! He has his grenadier. Probably more than one. He might get the idea of scrapping the whole project. He can do without waive the invested money.

Exactly. You don't get rich to have problems. He's got his. Job done. And to his credit and the Team that made it happen. Not many folks can say the same about building a new car.

Eric said:
My concern is the longer this unsolved issue drags on, Ineos may decide that IA is not a core business and their skill sets are not suited to the automotive business. And IA is sold off as is for an established vehicle manufacturer to deliver.

Negotiations can take time, and are often conducted in secret.

My concern would, be the longer it goes on the more it becomes part of Corporate Culture. Be that around communication or delivery.

Imagine they can go 3 months more without delivering. Then maybe shoot for 6 more after. Then, "who ever said we were going to deliver cars ?".

I mean seriously, has IA ever really said the plan was to actually deliver cars to regular, end customers ?

As for the whining, whinging etc monikers dished out here, that does surprises me. I'm sorry, we're a comminuty why, again ?

tartan shepherd · Mar 17, 2023

DCPU said:
Sorry I was referring to July 22 and the Mark Tennant video talking keys in hands of customers...

How detached from reality was that guy? Either he had no clue as to what was required or was been fed bull droppings on status updates.

jamesfielding · Mar 17, 2023

Curious and not sure if this has been answered, are any of the deliveries Utility Models or Station Wagon models, vs higher end versions?

edit: 99% sure this has been answered but reading through 1000+ posts isn't particularly fun.

DaveB · Mar 17, 2023

To said:
Don't annoy Sir Jim too much! He has his grenadier. Probably more than one. He might get the idea of scrapping the whole project. He can do without waive the invested money. And then we would all have our down payments back very quickly. Let's wait and see. Ineos wouldn't make public what the real problem is now. That would not be good for the whole thing.

Can you post the pictures of Sir Jim with his Grenadier
I haven't seen any of them yet and would be interested to see what he chose.
I have seen the prototype safari vehicle in Africa

painter · Mar 17, 2023

DaveB said:
Can you post the pictures of Sir Jim with his Grenadier
I haven't seen any of them yet and would be interested to see what he chose.
I have seen the prototype safari vehicle in Africa

At this point I thought Sir Jim owns all of 'em. If not who does ?

Sauron ?
The Elvis Estate ?
Surely not that guy Ed Sheeran again !
or is it Prince Harry ... part of that book deal perhaps ?

DaveB · Mar 17, 2023

painter said:
At this point I thought Sir Jim owns all of 'em. If not who does ?

Sauron ?
The Elvis Estate ?
Surely not Ed Sheeran again !
or is it Prince Harry ... part of that book deal perhaps ?

There have been lots of comments like "Sir Jim has taken delivery of his and doesn't care about the rest of us"
I just haven't seen any pictures or print of him actually taking delivery of one, or any other members of his family or design team

DCPU · Mar 17, 2023

tartan shepherd said:
How detached from reality was that guy? Either he had no clue as to what was required or was been fed bull droppings on status updates.

I had some initial sympathy for him as his background seems to have been more marketing than engineering/production. So maybe he believed what he was told and fronted up on the initial video; but you'd think once bitten, twice shy. However, he came back repeatedly.

Still not certain he's stepped away, as he's still listed as a Director, now in tandem with LYNN HELEN Calder, appointed on 9th March.

DCPU · Mar 17, 2023

DaveB said:
Can you post the pictures of Sir Jim with his Grenadier
I haven't seen any of them yet and would be interested to see what he chose.

Technically aren't they all his till he decides to sell one?

muxmax · Mar 17, 2023

DCPU said:
Technically aren't they all his till he decides to sell one?

I think that is what @painter wanted to say. And I guess, he is somewhat right.

DaveB · Mar 17, 2023

DCPU said:
Technically aren't they all his till he decides to sell one?

They are all owned by Ineos Automotive I would assume but I guess that is like saying Sir Jim owns all the chairs and toilet rolls.
Is that his actual vehicle or just a demo unit?
I would have picked him for green or white

painter · Mar 17, 2023

DaveB said:
There have been lots of comments like "Sir Jim has taken delivery of his and doesn't care about the rest of us"

Of course. And you are a gentleman for not naming me as a culprit. Thank you. I see you.

I am guilty tho. It's all in fun. Kicking around the rich guy is just what we do, my side of the tracks.

Now, back to Mordor...
Rumour has it Grens are being shipped there for software repairs but the Orcs are having a heck of a time mastering the posh English accent needed for the voice recognition interlocks. They were going to send them to the colonies for reprogramming but quickly gave up on that idea - figured they wouldn't get them back.

So this will all take some time ...

Tom D · Mar 17, 2023

When did the last batch of contracts go out? Feels like its been a while since anyone posted they had received one..

Whatever the issue is it must be fairly serious, and difficult to rectify. Some of these cars have been at the dealers for a while now…

das mo · Mar 17, 2023

Tom D said:
When did the last batch of contracts go out? Feels like its been a while since anyone posted they had received one..

Whatever the issue is it must be fairly serious, and difficult to rectify. Some of these cars have been at the dealers for a while now…

March 3rd

Tom D · Mar 17, 2023

We can only hope that as soon as the issue is rectified they will start flying out all over the place….

J8hn · Mar 17, 2023

das mo said:
March 3rd

Feb 9th

Eric · Mar 18, 2023

Am I correct that in the UK, the PCS union is now on strike over pay for five weeks?
Am I therefore correct in thinking that this will prevent the manual postal registration of motor vehicle for five weeks plus the subsequent backlog clearance.
I hope this service has been contracted out and is not affected by this strike.
Knowing fate, have IA also chosen Evri as the courier?

Nocrays · Mar 18, 2023

Tom D said:
When did the last batch of contracts go out? Feels like its been a while since anyone posted they had received one..

Whatever the issue is it must be fairly serious, and difficult to rectify. Some of these cars have been at the dealers for a while now…

I’ve been assured that I’m in the “next” batch of contracts

I’m quietly optimistic but then again I had the same advice in November after my config was locked

I wish they would release more info on the delays though!

tartan shepherd · Mar 18, 2023

Useful update from the dealer, apparently the IT boffins keep getting an error when uploading the new software flash to the ecu.

Beormund · Mar 18, 2023

tartan shepherd said:
Useful update from the dealer, apparently the IT boffins keep getting an error when uploading the new software flash to the ecu.

Must be something to do with the airbags. Or am I on the spectrum?

CountyV8 · Mar 18, 2023

Beormund said:
Must be something to do with the airbags. Or am I on the spectrum?

some don't need software fix what are they not telling us

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