One thing to consider with the Mojos, is a problem experienced by a Sprinter owner this weekend... Not saying you'll be off roading with your snow tires, but still something to consider
And thank you for being one of those engaged owners as well!
From Consumer Reports.
What in the ever living hell? Is there something else you prefer that has a little offset like that without the same valve vulnerability ? I’m not sure what you’ve done, personally, for wheels or tires - just like I call Krabby “Your Holiness,” I think you should be “The Professor.” I’ve rarely seen someone who can go that deep - on about 1000 automotive disciplines.One thing to consider with the Mojos, is a problem experienced by a Sprinter owner this weekend... Not saying you'll be off roading with your snow tires, but still something to consider
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Also, happy to see the forum working as intended for you
The Owl Talon has more inset valve stem locations, as do the Agile Off Road and Black Rhino wheels; all with similar offsets.
Well, my family thinks I’m either a spy or an incompetent buffoon, and usually I end up in the ER when I break out the serious equipment and tools, so I appreciate the competent insight.The Owl Talon has more inset valve stem locations, as do the Agile Off Road and Black Rhino wheels; all with similar offsets.
And thank you for the kind words, being well versed on various platforms is literally in my job description
Yep - that’s an option when I’m out in the woods snowshoeing in winter. I was looking for more of a recommendation for daily driving. Around town and out skiing a couple times a week, so on city roads, lightly or untreated rural roads, usually ploughed but sometimes not if it’s coming down heavy. I think most of the forum members’ feedback is I can make the K02’s work, but a dedicated Nordic winter tire would be best for my situation. I’m going to listen to their collective wisdom on this. We get a lot of hard-pack and ice, and on many days, it’s colder at my house than the North Pole (the local weather loves to point that out whenever it happens - like that somehow makes the misery better). In the winter, every Wisconsinite carries a set of chains with them- and at least 3 ice scrapers - and chemical hand and foot warmers - and emergency blankets - and . . .
I’ve already got the steelies - 17”. I don’t know - and this is probably just vanity, but since the winter tire will be less aggressive looking than the K02’s, a bit of offset would give it a wider stance so I don’t look like a lame mall crawler - well, at least a little less so. I readily admit this is pure insecurity and cowardice. ON THE OTHER HAND, they’re just winter tires, so another option is to get the stock alloy for winter, and keep the steelies for rest of year. I just can’t see running steelies with the winter tires. It would just look contradictory IMO. The K02’s look like they BELONG on steelies. Maybe I’m wrong - usually that’s the case, and one of you (or my wife) puts me on the right track.
Sorry - one modification to this. I called my Ineos dealer this morning - he didn’t have the exact number on hand for the stock 17” alloys, but said they did this recently for a customer (purchased the alloys separately after delivery), and he said it was stupid expensive - like $4k. For the 17’s! Just the rims, not the tires! I was really surprised, because when you do the online config, it’s just a $700 up charge. Anyhow, the Ineos dealer said “if you’re running these for winter, get Black Rhino with Blizzak LT’s.” I got a quote from a local truck specialist - $2850 all-in (wheels, tires, sensors) for 5. Would just need to get the Agile bracket to flip and mount that spare. Would definitely wait until late November / early December once we really start to get into it. K02’s probably fine for the less frequent stuff in Oct/Nov.
Confirm what sensors they are using. TPMS on the Grenadier is position specific and must be programmed at a dealer currently.
Excellent point - that’s actually what they said they would probably have to do - clone the factory sensors
So the truck shop (which hasn’t done a Grenadier before) spoke to Black Rhino - their (Black Rhino’s) dealer sales rep had personally cloned the Grenadier sensors, walked them through it, and verified they use the same tool. I ended up buying the Blizzak LT’s (this came down to performance and future availability for replacement - Nokian’s are getting tougher to find) and the Black Rhino Yellowstones in gunmetal gray. Yes I know you hate them, Anand, and I know they look a fair bit like the stock alloys (which are pornographically expensive, according to my Ineos dealer). But, these are just winter tires, not what I’m using off-road. Don’t need a dump valve, not scraping rocks on trails. They were just less annoying to me than some others - I was going for something somewhat inconspicuous. These are functional tires, not fun tires, so no point bragging about them with something over-the-top tough looking. I’ll get the spare bracket from Owl or Agile to flip the spare. The shop will just hang on to them for me - I’ll put them on in late November or whenever the Norse god Friezjorkeister decides to come to Wisconsin.
Like I said - it was the least annoying. Most of their designs look like a 13 year old boy on adderall came up with it. Fair point about the dump valve - “nurse, I need decompression - STAT!!!” Just couldn’t spare the extra 3 minutes, huh, sport?No beef about Black Rhinos or Blizzaks here
I'm not a huge fan of their wheel designs, but to each their own!!
And, to be bluntly honest, even those of us that air down regularly don't need dump valves or dual valve stems
I did the Blizzak LT - close enough to your recommendation to show a little gratitude, but deviating slightly so I can pose and posture and be a nuisance.
Wait, isn’t that how we’re supposed to blend in?
A bunch of middle aged dads dadsplaining to one another? I guess that’s the vibe. What’s upsetting is when people like Anand who are genuinely competent screw it up for guys like me who like to pontificate and bloviate with absolutely no basis in fact.
I ended up doing the Owl spare bracket instead of Agile. It’s adjustable and you can flip the spare. So we’ll see how the winter goes on these. And if anyone has suggestions for winter wheels OTHER than the Black Rhino Yellowstones, let me know. It’s just for winter, not looking for dual valve or bead lock - will be on 3-4 months. Would be nice to have just a little offset. “Inconspicuous and not obnoxious” should be the look. Then they get put away in March and I go back to fun. Already ordered the Yellowstone but not installing until November so I can switch.No beef about Black Rhinos or Blizzaks here
I'm not a huge fan of their wheel designs, but to each their own!!
And, to be bluntly honest, even those of us that air down regularly don't need dump valves or dual valve stems
