Vehicle mounted twin air compressor

[chrsbe]

Is this the new ARB brushless version of the dual air compressor?

 

[MrMike]

Is this the new ARB brushless version of the dual air compressor?

The ine pictured is not the new brushless compressor

 

[MileHigh]

The ine pictured is not the new brushless compressor

What is the advantage of the brushless version? I’ve never seen that mention in the literature.

 

[ADVAW8S]

What is the advantage of the brushless version? I’ve never seen that mention in the literature.

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[MrMike]

What is the advantage of the brushless version? I’ve never seen that mention in the literature.

Less maintenance/issues as like all electric motors of that type, thnk starter motor, the brushes are the main weak point/maintenance issue.

 

[MileHigh]

Is that getting too enough air to run tools without a tank?
Or maybe get the single version brushless with a tank? The new singles should give similar performance to the old double? Correct?
Is the dual version really redundant? As in if one of them is not working, does the other one still provide pressurized air?

 

[MrMike]

Is that getting too enough air to run tools without a tank?
Or maybe get the single version brushless with a tank? The new singles should give similar performance to the old double? Correct?
Is the dual version really redundant? As in if one of them is not working, does the other one still provide pressurized air?

Depends on the tools you want to run. What do you do to require air tools?

 

[DaveB]

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[MrMike]

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Be good if they did the GVM certification for those that already had the uprated springs.
We have about 12 vehicles in WA that have them fitted but no certification.

 

[DaveB]

Be good if they did the GVM certification for those that already had the uprated springs.
We have about 12 vehicles in WA that have them fitted but no certification.

Certification after registration is a lot more of a problem
Not to mention lots of off the shelf GVM upgrades don't actually do much.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSYWq3Iou-A

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmK6sOrJ5aY&t=492s

 

[MrMike]

Certification after registration is a lot more of a problem
Not to mention lots of off the shelf GVM upgrades don't actually do much.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSYWq3Iou-A

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmK6sOrJ5aY&t=492s

Ive seen Roberts vid, but not JC's. I just want some extra load carrying capacity, not towing as IMO the Grenadier isn’t the ideal 3k+ kg solution.

 

[NQ94]

Certification after registration is a lot more of a problem
Not to mention lots of off the shelf GVM upgrades don't actually do much.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSYWq3Iou-A

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmK6sOrJ5aY&t=492s

It's a wonder Cadogan hasn't done an Ineos video yet. He is happy to bag the shit out of every other manufacture except Mitsubishi and Hyundai. He comes across as a condersending prick in most of his videos making them painfull to fully watch. Pretty sure he has done a few videos with ASPW.
I see no issue with certification after registerstration as in the truck industry it happens every day for many reasons.

 

[globalgregors]

Is that getting too enough air to run tools without a tank?
Or maybe get the single version brushless with a tank? The new singles should give similar performance to the old double? Correct?
Is the dual version really redundant? As in if one of them is not working, does the other one still provide pressurized air?

The tank accumulates additional pressure that when initially released boosts the torque produced by the air tool, handy if you’re using an impact wrench or even just an air gun.

Major benefit of twin versus single is duty cycle: the brushless will take longer to accumulate heat but when it does it will toggle off. Twin will run sequentially to ensure supply is maintained. If one compressor fails the twin does offer redundancy, presuming one has wired it according to instructions with dual fuses etc.

The old twin is just paired singles, so it doesn’t produce any greater pressure, the only difference is duty cycle as described above.

Summary though is one only needs the twin for the following reasons:

• Redundancy (eg operating in remote areas)
• Convoy use (eg airing several vehicles at a time)
• 35” or larger tyres

Then for the tank:

• Tool use, specifically impact wrench, nibbler etc (eg vehicle is a hub for mechanical work in the field)

Not clear that there’s a use case for mating a tank with a single.

 

[DaveB]

Ive seen Roberts vid, but not JC's. I just want some extra load carrying capacity, not towing as IMO the Grenadier isn’t the ideal 3k+ kg solution.

I was talking to a long term friend yesterday who has been doing laps towing a caravan for many years, both before and after retiring.
He just ordered a new semi-offroad caravan that is only 19 foot.
He has varied caravan sizes and weights and decided most people get too large a van and carry too much crap in it.
Particularly clothes and cooking equipment.

 

[MrMike]

The tank accumulates additional pressure that when initially released boosts the torque produced by the air tool, handy if you’re using a impact wrench or even just an air gun.

Major benefit of twin versus single is duty cycle: the brushless will take longer to accumulate heat but when it does it will toggle off. Twin will run sequentially to ensure supply is maintained. If one compressor fails the twin does offer redundancy, presuming one has wired it according to instructions with dual fuses etc.

The old twin is just paired singles, so it doesn’t produce any greater pressure, the only difference is duty cycle as described above.

Summary though is one only needs the twin for the following reasons:

• Redundancy (eg operating in remote areas)
• Convoy use (eg airing several vehicles at a time)
• 35” or larger tyres

Then for the tank:

• Tool use, specifically impact wrench, nibbler etc (eg vehicle is a hub for mechanical work in the field)

Not clear that there’s a use case for mating a tank with a single.

I agree re tank, i have one in my camper for the suspension, 9lts. Its all but useless for using tools, compressor is a 150lpm

 

[MrMike]

I was talking to a long term friend yesterday who has been doing laps towing a caravan for many years, both before and after retiring.
He just ordered a new semi-offroad caravan that is only 19 foot.
He has varied caravan sizes and weights and decided most people get too large a van and carry too much crap in it.
Particularly clothes and cooking equipment.

Yes, my preferred option is an AOR Matrix which is well within reasonable weight limits

 

[Steve.B]

I agree re tank, i have one in my camper for the suspension, 9lts. Its all but useless for using tools, compressor is a 150cfm.

A bit of a typo 150 litres per limit, if it is a 150 cfm show me where to buy it, I am in.

 

[MrMike]

A bit of a typo 150 litres per limit, if it is a 150 cfm show me where to buy it, I am in.

Corrected thanks @Steve.B

 

[MileHigh]

I agree re tank, i have one in my camper for the suspension, 9lts. Its all but useless for using tools, compressor is a 150lpm

9 L isn’t huge, but is it not big enough to run a tool off of? I’m more just looking to future proof an install. I sure hope I don’t need a nibbler, but I assume an impact wrench would be pretty useful when changing tires?
To run an impact wrench, how big of a tank would you need? And I asked earlier, but I don’t think anyone responded, what about if you had the tank just in line with the hose so that it’s not always with you? I know you could put a tank underneath the vehicle, but that’s more hoses and fittings and stuff that could potentially get damaged.
I assume I would put the brushless twin, if no other reason then by once cry once.

 

[MrMike]

9 L isn’t huge, but is it not big enough to run a tool off of? I’m more just looking to future proof an install. I sure hope I don’t need a nibbler, but I assume an impact wrench would be pretty useful when changing tires?
To run an impact wrench, how big of a tank would you need? And I asked earlier, but I don’t think anyone responded, what about if you had the tank just in line with the hose so that it’s not always with you? I know you could put a tank underneath the vehicle, but that’s more hoses and fittings and stuff that could potentially get damaged.
I assume I would put the brushless twin, if no other reason then by once cry once.

The size of the tank depends on the output of the tools, but to effectively run workshop air tools the tank size wouldn't fit underneath and would take up too much space inside. I'd personally use 18v tools if that works for your usage. Google says 48lt (12 gallin) tank to run workshop tooling.