If you mean did I get the detachable version, then yes been using it for a few months. Spot on for my caravan and trailer.Did you get anywhere with this?
If you mean did I get the detachable version, then yes been using it for a few months. Spot on for my caravan and trailer.Did you get anywhere with this?
sorry mate, got it now. Ok from the information I received from Brink and Ineos, the detachable version is fully compliant with the M1 version as well as the N1.It was more in terms of a conversation with Ineos/your agent:
"Dan Bowdler there is looking in to it and will call me back." (I don't know who he is)
And the point you made:
"Is as I suspect the E11 type approval number on DCPUs one ends in a 6 the they are good for all versions of the Grenny."
Just looking for confirmation from Ineos, either explicit by statement or implicit by selling the part for an M1 vehicle, with regard to the legalities.
+1 for the Ineos (Brinks) detachable 2" receiver hitch & rubber bungsorry mate, got it now. Ok from the information I received from Brink and Ineos, the detachable version is fully compliant with the M1 version as well as the N1.
The weight is the same as the normal one at 350Kg.
For the first two years (don't know the start date) it will be sold exclusively by Ineos.
I find it much better for towing and when not in use I take it off and use one of the rubber "bungs" you identified to keep the mount clean.
I purchased the 2” receiver socket towball from Ineos./Harwoods not cheap though £169.22 + vatsorry mate, got it now. Ok from the information I received from Brink and Ineos, the detachable version is fully compliant with the M1 version as well as the N1.
The weight is the same as the normal one at 350Kg.
For the first two years (don't know the start date) it will be sold exclusively by Ineos.
I find it much better for towing and when not in use I take it off and use one of the rubber "bungs" you identified to keep the mount clean.
I’ve been keeping an eye on this thread for a while because I tend to get involved with dragging all sorts of stuff around. Some of it is road bound & therefore has to be legal, the rest is non-tarmac (as against off-road) and so could be all sorts and weights putting abstruse loads onto whatever hitch the rope/chain/wire/etc is attached to. As I have no wish to kill, injure or damage my kit, a certain amount of nouse* is needed to stay safe.View attachment 7824134View attachment 7824136View attachment 7824135
Looks very similar to one from here:
Tow ball 3,5t lowered, incl. 2- to 4-hole-adapter
Swan neck tow ball 3,5 t incl. adapter plate with adaptation from 2- to 4-hole mounting; especially compatible with simultaneous use of a hook type…www.nakatanenga.de
Very nice of you to explain local slang* nouse - northern English for common sense as applied to the job in hahand.
Sorry Jean, there's slang and dialect. Dialect is words that come down from older languages. Slang is modern.Very nice of you to explain local slang
Also nice to share your personal towing preferences and wishes.
Therefore it is dialect?Sorry Jean, there's slang and dialect. Dialect is words that come down from older languages. Slang is modern.
There, bit more information for you!
All credit to you for your language skills but it a sad day when there's no new facts!Therefore it is dialect?
I should have known according to your age (or mine).
Anyway ... I didn’t know the difference between the two
I spoke with my dealer again regarding the plug-in trailer hitch. After clarification with Ineos Germany, my previous statement is confirmed. The plug-in trailer hitch in the square hole can be ordered as a spare part for all Grenadiers as an accessory. But: In the EU there is no approval for this tow hitch. He told me that it is approved in Australia and Africa. He did not say anything about UK and USA. So there is at least for me (Trialmaster) unfortunately no alternative, except the standard tow ball. This is very annoying.Yep ~ I don't think this was available when any of us were ordering in Europe, but it's definitely there now as a parts order.
I know nothing about German towing law, but this has full European type approval.?
Is this right? But: In the EU there is no approval for this tow hitch. As there seems few restrictions on the N1 version, I went looking and found the receiver hitch in my post above (1692622971004.png). This was described as Euro compliant with a 3500kg load, a S value of 22.5Kn and a hitch load of 350kg. Suited me so I bought one and it IS quite a lump, solid.I spoke with my dealer again regarding the plug-in trailer hitch. After clarification with Ineos Germany, my previous statement is confirmed. The plug-in trailer hitch in the square hole can be ordered as a spare part for all Grenadiers as an accessory. But: In the EU there is no approval for this tow hitch. He told me that it is approved in Australia and Africa. He did not say anything about UK and USA. So there is at least for me (Trialmaster) unfortunately no alternative, except the standard tow ball. This is very annoying.
nose weight only 250 kg!Is this right? But: In the EU there is no approval for this tow hitch. As there seems few restrictions on the N1 version, I went looking and found the receiver hitch in my post above (1692622971004.png). This was described as Euro compliant with a 3500kg load, a S value of 22.5Kn and a hitch load of 350kg. Suited me so I bought one and it IS quite a lump, solid.
This is the paperwork for it. Hope this helps.
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I can only repeat what my dealer has just received as an answer from INEOS Germany.Is this right? But: In the EU there is no approval for this tow hitch. As there seems few restrictions on the N1 version, I went looking and found the receiver hitch in my post above (1692622971004.png). This was described as Euro compliant with a 3500kg load, a S value of 22.5Kn and a hitch load of 350kg. Suited me so I bought one and it IS quite a lump, solid.
This is the paperwork for it. Hope this helps.
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I deleted my post because I just noticed that @Hicarus was referring to N1I can only repeat what my dealer has just received as an answer from INEOS Germany.
He did not talk about the UK, nor did he know whether the UK is still treated like the EU or not. Therefore, he did not make any statement on this. You have to clarify this directly with INEOS UK.
It's about the vehicle, just as @Eric mentioned.
If someone does receive approval for this in Germany, I would be grateful for the information.
There was a similar issue with the Defender 2 decades ago. Basically, the NATO trailer coupling was not registered. But there were TÜV (MOT) test stations that actually registered this NATO tow hitch. And they did so in the very area where the British Rhine Army was stationed during the occupation. Because this type of tow hitch was known there. So we all went on a pilgrimage to this test centre and got the registration.
Hi DCPU - have you applied any underbody treatment yet?In the past yes to waxoyl but don't think I'm interested in Lanoguard if it's a regular reapplication early 12 months.
And here is the problem. I figured, that by the time the Grenadier launched there would be a host of after market accessories including the option to fit a Tow hitch with Ball & Pin, or Ball or as some are saying a 'NATO claw' style. But as i have been informed directly from INEOS, no such after market accessories are yet availabe, so no after market wiring loom to facilitate the 7 Pin or 13 Pin single or double electrics needed to power lights etc on trailers. The fitting of tow bars seem straightforwards, however the wiring loom not so. INEOS are very unclear if this will ever be resolved. So, if you are ordering one, make sure you add the Tow Hitch option.I guess fit one retrospectively and take your chances. You'll still need the wiring, best done at the factory.
My guess is that you will, but it may be a year or two. For example, the inner wing fixings seem to be 6mm torx into steel rivets. Those in the rear aluminium panel are Series Landy problems. On mine the torx screws all over were already showing signs of corrosion. Also, all the chassis, steering & suspension bolts are BZP coated. This winter's salt will not be good there.No I'm going au naturale at present, whether I'll regret it, only time will tell.