Steering stabilizer bar

[Dokatd]

I just came across this. Its very interesting comment on the steering. I hope this problem is solved at the factory and not at our garages.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOQyc58Ix2Q

This video is so wrong. The “second nut” is in the bar itself. The visible nut is the lock nut. Mine were loose on delivery, after tightening it has been just fine. And by the way, the word he was looking for was knuckle.

 

[RobP]

has anyone tried the new king steering stabilizer? i saw that owl carries it.

I was just looking at this on their website and it says it will return to center. Would love to hear from anyone who's installed one.

 

[parb]

I was just looking at this on their website and it says it will return to center. Would love to hear from anyone who's installed one.

exactly this. Would love to hear a review.

 

[Jérémie]

Probably a stupid question, but if I want to revert to stock, what are the torque values for the 18/21mm ?
I wasn't able to find that information and I guess, the values may differ from the ones needed for the Fox (75/110).

 

[OldSoldier]

Probably a stupid question, but if I want to revert to stock, what are the torque values for the 18/21mm ?
I wasn't able to find that information and I guess, the values may differ from the ones needed for the Fox (75/110).

Per Agile Off-road website I believe it’s 80/110, double check on their ATS shock install video

 

[AwestinTX]

I was just looking at this on their website and it says it will return to center. Would love to hear from anyone who's installed one.

I bought one and have driven it for about 350 miles. It returns more to center than the OEM stabilizer, but it does improve overall steering IMO. As far as money spent on the IG, it's been the best thing I've done. I think the King stabilizer tracks better at highway speeds as well - I don't know why that would be, but it seems to be the case. Also could be mental on my part. Took 7 mins to install.

 

[Blackgray]

Any updates/reviews for those running the King stabilizer?

 

[Michael_in_Baja]

I'm not sure if everyone's Grenadier has both nuts welded in. The Agile instructions stated that the passenger side nut required just one 18mm socket wrench and the driver's side needed two 21mm sockets. I only needed one socket for the latter. The instructions also said that the driver's side bracket might need to be spread apart to accommodate the stabilizer and two washers. In my case, they fit loosely. Each bolt has a different torque spec in the instructions. It's easier to install the driver's side stabilizer end first since you'll need to align the bolt through 2 washers and the nut on the other end of the bracket. I compressed the stabilizer by hand to align the passenger side end to the nut. Instructions say to turn the steering wheel one way to align the bolt. Hope those help.

This was my experience installing my steering stabilizer today only one 21 mm wrench or socket needed. My Trialmaster was built in May of '24.

I was a little dubious about this being a problem not worth solving but I am glad I installed the Fox ATS 2 from Agile Offroad. I set the dampener to 12 clicks which is right in the middle of its range and I noticed an instant improvement in the vehicle's steering.

It is still very deliberate but it will unwind itself 90% giving the driver the final 10%. I don't know whether or not other adjustments or settings would change that I suspect if you dialed it back closer to you 6 or 7 it might unwind itself all the way but I'm really happy with the outcome.

 

[Tazzieman]

For all the talk in 2022-23 about the stabiliser being vulnerable to damage I can't recall anyone smashing one up, and I've watched a fair few youtubes of people doing gnarly stuff.

 

[parb]

I did nothing super gnarly in Moab but fins'n'things isn't exactly childs play either on a stock grenadier. I did that trail and a really gnarly trail in lake Tahoe and not once in the 3,000 miles including those trails have I had an issue with my agile off-road steering stabilizer.

I changed out my front springs to the Ineos green springs and had to do a wheel alignment. I've done 1,000 miles with the new alignment and the car drives as well as my brand new Volvo xc90. It's superb and a must do mod in my opinion.

 

[Blackgray]

I installed my King steering stabilizer today. The install itself was very easy. I haven't had much seat time yet, but the return to center is improved and it seems like there's a little less play in the steering wheel. Looking forward to testing it out on the highway.

 

[Dokatd]

I installed my King steering stabilizer today. The install itself was very easy. I haven't had much seat time yet, but the return to center is improved and it seems like there's a little less play in the steering wheel. Looking forward to testing it out on the highway.

The reduced play feeling is the fact that the factory steering stabilizer tends to hold the steering one side or the other until you correct it. The aftermarket stabilizers loosen up the steering a bit and allows the steering to more naturally follow your intended direction.

Kind of hard to explain, but it’s a common issue that affects lots of different types of vehicles. On airplanes for instance if you have a sticking elevator the plane can be hard to keep stable due to the elevator sticking in position rather than weathervaning. A touch of lube on the elevator hinges and all of the sudden the plane feels more locked in and precise.

 

[BigJoeJack]

Any updates/reviews for those running the King stabilizer?

I'm running lift with King stabilizer and King remote res shocks. Big difference over stock shocks and stabilizer. The lift with 35" tires on stock shocks was down right scary on the highway.

 

[Dokatd]

I'm running lift with King stabilizer and King remote res shocks. Big difference over stock shocks and stabilizer. The lift with 35" tires on stock shocks was down right scary on the highway.

I’m glad someone can back me up on this. I felt like I was taking crazy pills .

 

[Tom109]

I’m glad someone can back me up on this. I felt like I was taking crazy pills .

You are!

My Gren was built on 9/28/23, stock steering & suspension, drives like a dream, even one-handed.

 

[Dokatd]

You are!

My Gren was built on 9/28/23, stock steering & suspension, drives like a dream, even one-handed.

Fair enough, but this was in reference to one with an Eibach lift and no other changes.

 

[trobex]

For all the talk in 2022-23 about the stabiliser being vulnerable to damage I can't recall anyone smashing one up, and I've watched a fair few youtubes of people doing gnarly stuff.

Mine has "clipped" a tree root/stub once but no damage just a scuff mark. It has however created a nice flat track going through sand a couple of times - in some fluffy stuff near Inskip/Rainbow. It just levels the sand perfectly so the rear underbody plate doesn't become a plough - design coincidence???

 

[TheDocAUS]

INEOS ANZ and JMACX
There is a new front stabiliser under development in Australia between INEOS ANZ and JMACX, very different from the other choices.

View: https://youtu.be/rEKEoGr6kRA?t=152

 

[Michael_in_Baja]

INEOS ANZ and JMACX
There is a new front stabiliser under development in Australia between INEOS ANZ and JMACX, very different from the other choices.

View: https://youtu.be/rEKEoGr6kRA?t=152

There looked to be some cool products in their shops but they were light on details. The subtitles were pretty cool, because Australians don't speak english?
Near the end of the video they brought out an ATS style stabilizer in develppment with 2 reservoirs that looked like it belonged on a unimog. It was massive.

 

[TheDocAUS]

There looked to be some cool products in their shops but they were light on details. The subtitles were pretty cool, because Australians don't speak english?
Near the end of the video they brought out an ATS style stabilizer in develppment with 2 reservoirs that looked like it belonged on a unimog. It was massive.

JMACX's new Alpha 2.5 suspension for the IG was fitted to the INEOS Australia and New Zealand show car in that video. The new IG front stabiliser is under development, but it is not yet finished, a few more weeks still. Both are a joint development between INEOS Australia and New Zealand and JMACX. Before long both will go on sale in Australia through JMACX, more details here.

Bigger GVM upgrades to follow later.

Norweld did the tray and canopy, look here and the following posts.

View: https://youtu.be/u8VhWeDzbQ8

The known players in the build (so far) are:

1. Norweld tray and canopy (the Elite Tray, and the canopy is the Deluxe Lite);
2. JMACX Alpha 2.5 suspension, with more to come;
3. Rhino Rack 3/4 roof rack;
4. 136 litre Brown Davis aux tank;
5. camping lights over rear door, most likely STEDI and probably both sides. They look like they are plugged into the exterior roof power outlets;
6. work light on the rear driver's side of canopy roof, probably STEDI and probably both sides;
7. STEDI lights (x8) on the roof rack, maybe Type-X EVO 4 mini LEDs (controlled by the Redarc TVMS?);
8. Redarc TVMS (you can see it in the Norweld video).