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Steering stabilizer bar

Dokatd

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Having experienced the Dodge death wobble on my 1996 Dodge ram 2500 I can tell you the track bars are terrible and way underbuilt. I replaced mine years ago with a heavy duty track bar and never had a problem again. I am hesitant to replace the overly stiff factory steering stabilizer to improve the steering that I don't really have a problem with because I have heard a few reports of death wobble after the change.
The only reason you will get death wobble is if you set it too low. I am sure if you have a convo with Owl or Agile etc prior to buying they will happily refund you if you have an issue that cannot be attributed elsewhere.

I hope you will give it a shot and report back here. I think there has been a lot of circumstantial issues with some people install that has lead to a couple bad reviews. Plus the new designed bracket is much more appropriate on the FOX. The King looks like it just drops right in as well.

Install is 100% diy so you can swap back and forth for free excluding your time.
 

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Having experienced the Dodge death wobble on my 1996 Dodge ram 2500 I can tell you the track bars are terrible and way underbuilt. I replaced mine years ago with a heavy duty track bar and never had a problem again. I am hesitant to replace the overly stiff factory steering stabilizer to improve the steering that I don't really have a problem with because I have heard a few reports of death wobble after the change.
Your experience sounds a bit like mine, in that I have been fortunate in never having had any steering issues with my Grenadier. All very strange as I know some people have had serious problems.
 
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The only reason you will get death wobble is if you set it too low. I am sure if you have a convo with Owl or Agile etc prior to buying they will happily refund you if you have an issue that cannot be attributed elsewhere.

I hope you will give it a shot and report back here. I think there has been a lot of circumstantial issues with some people install that has lead to a couple bad reviews. Plus the new designed bracket is much more appropriate on the FOX. The King looks like it just drops right in as well.

Install is 100% diy so you can swap back and forth for free excluding your time.
I have not decided on King or Fox shocks yet and if I am being honest I want the stabilizer to match the shocks. I will for sure try one but man death wobble is no fun, I might have PTSD from the Dodge...
 

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My unadjustable Fox Stabilizer I bought from Agile Odd Road for $269.00 is quite good. My issue is with the XXL turning radius. Many times I have to reverse and turn once or twice. It can be rough when you have cars waiting behind you. It would be very nice if the camber would have a factory fix.

I made a video comparing the Grenadier to a Gwagon and several other solid axle vehicles. It wasn’t great 😂 My huge Unimog U1300L just eeks out a smaller turning radius. That was with the factory set steering stops. As soon as my back recovers I plan on making some adjustments and seeing if I can get it a bit closer to a stock Gwagon. Luckily the Unimog has the same style half shafts and joints. So I can get some factory specs from it and a few other mog’s I own and feel comfortable enough with any increases I make on the Grenadier.

The key is always to mitigate stress on the front end while at full lock. CV’s and Ujoints etc can be brutally strong in a straight line but not so much at extreme angles. I suspect Ineos was protecting the Double Cardan joints by limiting the steering angle. Yet another compromise.
 

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I have not decided on King or Fox shocks yet and if I am being honest I want the stabilizer to match the shocks. I will for sure try one but man death wobble is no fun, I might have PTSD from the Dodge...

No doubt, it gets spooky. It’s even worse on a built rig with 40”+ tires.

And yes I feel dirty having the FOX stabilizer and the King shocks, but hey it is what it is at the moment. I do like the ease of adjustment on the FOX though and the new Fox option for the Grenadier looks nice. But man the huge Kings really take a beating without a sweat.
 
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No doubt, it gets spooky. It’s even worse on a built rig with 40”+ tires.

And yes I feel dirty having the FOX stabilizer and the King shocks, but hey it is what it is at the moment. I do like the ease of adjustment on the FOX though and the new Fox option for the Grenadier looks nice. But man the huge Kings really take a beating without a sweat.
Yeah I like the Kings a lot. they look way over built and I like that.
 
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