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IslandFalconer

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Anecdotes means very little in the face of much larger statistical pattern of something. Have you seen the long running threads on fked up hvac behavior? From top-down, the smoke on this issue is thick and billowing.. from where I am it is a fking wild fire.

I see the same senseless sentiments of some Mopar guy commenting “mah jeep/ram has been perfect, runs like a top!” As if to dispel industry trends on reliability for

Anecdotes means very little in the face of much larger statistical pattern of something. Have you seen the long running threads on fked up hvac behavior? From top-down, the smoke on this issue is thick and billowing.. from where I am it is a fking wild fire.

I see the same senseless sentiments of some Mopar guy commenting “mah jeep/ram has been perfect, runs like a top!” As if to dispel industry trends on reliability for those brands.
Don’t you get it? Everyone who’s having problems is obviously wrong. And one perfect truck means everyone with problems is obviously not capable of understanding that they aren’t problems at all.
 

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We get it, your trucks are perfect. Why do you continually have to argue with people who are telling you they are having problems? Mine is either Hot!! Or Cold. The rear vents are hot when in cool, left to right isn’t even. Why is it that because dual Brent thinks his are perfect you keep demanding people explain themselves to you bud. Why can’t you accept these trucks have issues.
Whose arguing? See I knew it wasn’t me! It’s YOU my friend. I simply posted MY experience and didn’t call anyone out or say who’s right or wrong. I literally said I was confused. 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

It’s almost like you can’t stand it when someone else says their vehicles are running smoothly with no issues. Heck on another thread/post I even said to YOU personally I felt bad for your situation and thought your dealer should make it right with you!! So what’s your issue with me saying I have tried to make mine do something bad/wrong? Now I’m totally lost. Can others on here read these posts and PLEASE tell me if this is on me. 🙏
 

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Whose arguing? See I knew it wasn’t me! It’s YOU my friend. I simply posted MY experience and didn’t call anyone out or say who’s right or wrong. I literally said I was confused. 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

It’s almost like you can’t stand it when someone else says their vehicles are running smoothly with no issues. Heck on another thread/post I even said to YOU personally I felt bad for your situation and thought your dealer should make it right with you!! So what’s your issue with me saying I have tried to make mine do something bad/wrong? Now I’m totally lost. Can others on here read these posts and PLEASE tell me if this is on me. 🙏
It’s the way you say it man. You come across as telling everyone how perfect your truck is, and you just go on about not understanding people have problems. Dude you’re fine you’ve got perfect trucks. Others don’t and you keep replying with how perfect yours are. Hereindarockied just said exactly what I said. Your anecdotal perfect trucks don’t come near the multiple threads of problems. Stop telling us how perfect your truck is. It’s condescending
 

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Don’t you get it? Everyone who’s having problems is obviously wrong. And one perfect truck means everyone with problems is obviously not capable of understanding that they aren’t problems at all.
f**k dude I clearly state “I am confused”! I have even acknowledged the older/initial vehicles have had many problems. If I was calling you out trust me you would know, as I am doing that NOW!! You seem like a miserable person. I have put up with the negativity as I am trying to be civil and like this forum. However, there are a couple of members that are ALWAYS negative, YOU being one or the main ones. I have never called you a liar or said what you’re going thru is funny. Just the opposite actually and wished you luck. So why the f**k you get so upset because I have two with no issues. Don’t be mad at me for this. Why can’t I just be a lucky guy who bought two that work flawlessly? Hate and jealousy makes for a miserable life @IslandFalconer
 

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f**k dude I clearly state “I am confused”! I have even acknowledged the older/initial vehicles have had many problems. If I was calling you out trust me you would know, as I am doing that NOW!! You seem like a miserable person. I have put up with the negativity as I am trying to be civil and like this forum. However, there are a couple of members that are ALWAYS negative, YOU being one or the main ones. I have never called you a liar or said what you’re going thru is funny. Just the opposite actually and wished you luck. So why the f**k you get so upset because I have two with no issues. Don’t be mad at me for this. Why can’t I just be a lucky guy who bought two that work flawlessly? Hate and jealousy makes for a miserable life @IslandFalconer
Off you go again, you’re missing the entire point. Every time someone/anyone says something negative or has a problem. You drop in with your “perfect pair” and say you’re confused or whatever. You can’t just acknowledge problems without going on about your “perfect” pair. It ads nothing to the conversation to give your confused anecdotes of how perfect your trucks are. Just stop. People are discussing an issue, and instead of asking a simple question it always goes to how your trucks are perfect.
 

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It’s the way you say it man. You come across as telling everyone how perfect your truck is, and you just go on about not understanding people have problems. Dude you’re fine you’ve got perfect trucks. Others don’t and you keep replying with how perfect yours are. Hereindarockied just said exactly what I said. Your anecdotal perfect trucks don’t come near the multiple threads of problems. Stop telling us how perfect your truck is. It’s condescending
So I’m tired of hearing yours is always broke and you’re tired of hearing mine is never broke. What’s the fix? You will continue to post negative stuff and I will continue to post positive. Until you just quoted me in this thread, I have left you be since you PM’d me to try to squash that initially disagreement we had many threads ago. However, if you will be like this now, well you definitely picked the wrong member to challenge. There is not a man on this earth that has ever frightened me, I have been through more life threatening situations than you can imagine, so some little beef on an anonymous forum is laughable to me. Don’t send me any PM trying to be nice again as I’m done. Once I’ll try to work thru it, but a second time nope that’s on YOU. I will end with this. Just as it is your right to post all your issues with yours, it is also my right to post how ABSOLUTELY PERFECT mine have been. So go F yourself if you don’t like it or block me as the kids say.

Ps. I never said anyone’s issues were not true! I explained myself and TWO buddies with (5-FIVE) new Grenadiers between us can’t duplicate the same issues. So why can’t I be confused on this and why the f**k do you care so much? It’s because you hate if anyone has one that has no issues. Bottom line. Btw, I will continue to post whatever the f**k I want to post. Can’t believe some knucklehead on an anonymous forum cracked my shell a little and got me so aggravated. Guess retirement is doing me in!! 🤦‍♂️
 

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So I’m tired of hearing yours is always broke and you’re tired of hearing mine is never broke. What’s the fix? You will continue to post negative stuff and I will continue to post positive. Until you just quoted me in this thread, I have left you be since you PM’d me to try to squash that initially disagreement we had many threads ago. However, if you will be like this now, well you definitely picked the wrong member to challenge. There is not a man on this earth that has ever frightened me, I have been through more life threatening situations than you can imagine, so some little beef on an anonymous forum is laughable to me. Don’t send me any PM trying to be nice again as I’m done. Once I’ll try to work thru it, but a second time nope that’s on YOU. I will end with this. Just as it is your right to post all your issues with yours, it is also my right to post how ABSOLUTELY PERFECT mine have been. So go F yourself if you don’t like it or block me as the kids say.

Ps. I never said anyone’s issues were not true! I explained myself and TWO buddies with (5-FIVE) new Grenadiers between us can’t duplicate the same issues. So why can’t I be confused on this and why the f**k do you care so much? It’s because you hate if anyone has one that has no issues. Bottom line. Btw, I will continue to post whatever the f**k I want to post. Can’t believe some knucklehead on an anonymous forum cracked my shell a little and got me so aggravated. Guess retirement is doing me in!! 🤦‍♂️
Dude, two people in the last half hour have pointed out that your comments are unnecessary. Go read this thread and while you’re at it post how Perfect your trucks are. Wonder how those folks will react.
Commenting or asking questions is one thing. Constantly comparing your perfect truck and basically telling everyone that because you have perfect truck you don’t understand how people can be having problems is the issue. What can’t you understand? What is so difficult that makes it that you have to respond to someone having problems with always bringing up your perfect truck? 1 or 2 good trucks does not solve the 100’s of posts of problems.
Next if you think you’re the only soldier that’s been to hell and back think again dude. I’ve served in multiple conflicts. I have nightmares to this day. I don’t need to be brow beat because you’ve seen crap. So have I bud. PTSD sucks. But that’s no excuse for “Not understanding” people have issues. The way you respond to people having issues is the problem. That’s like apologizing to someone you’ve offended by telling them you’re sorry they are offended. It’s not that you ask questions or respond. It’s that every time you respond to someone’s problems it’s to add in how “perfect” your trucks are. That solves nothing, it adds nothing.

Why you’re cursing and angry is beyond me man. You’re still welcome on my patio any time. I don’t understand why you’re the angry one. Im certainly not angry, or mad or upset. Just trying to point out that responding to everyone who has a problem with “Toxic Positivity” doesn’t help anything.
 

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That’s interesting.. I have tried a couple of times engaging automatic while below the 194 threshold.. cold ass air full blast each time. Will try it some more, since you have success with the auto mode + heat.

Yes I was at max heat.. I have become indoctrinated to use max heat with the ineos hvac. Given its apparent binary temperature states. lol ineo’s “unique” semantics of what max heat means
I’m finding max heat can be either Freaking Hot! Or Luke warm. What really gets me is if it’s blowing crazy hot, and I turn the knob back one click, it’s cold! Like A/C max cold! Auto seems to sometimes get it back to a more “normal” state. But it’s completely random. The loaner I have now is about the same as my regular truck. Just random.
 

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Dude, two people in the last half hour have pointed out that your comments are unnecessary. Go read this thread and while you’re at it post how Perfect your trucks are. Wonder how those folks will react.
Commenting or asking questions is one thing. Constantly comparing your perfect truck and basically telling everyone that because you have perfect truck you don’t understand how people can be having problems is the issue. What can’t you understand? What is so difficult that makes it that you have to respond to someone having problems with always bringing up your perfect truck? 1 or 2 good trucks does not solve the 100’s of posts of problems.
Next if you think you’re the only soldier that’s been to hell and back think again dude. I’ve served in multiple conflicts. I have nightmares to this day. I don’t need to be brow beat because you’ve seen crap. So have I bud. PTSD sucks. But that’s no excuse for “Not understanding” people have issues. The way you respond to people having issues is the problem. That’s like apologizing to someone you’ve offended by telling them you’re sorry they are offended. It’s not that you ask questions or respond. It’s that every time you respond to someone’s problems it’s to add in how “perfect” your trucks are. That solves nothing, it adds nothing.

Why you’re cursing and angry is beyond me man. You’re still welcome on my patio any time. I don’t understand why you’re the angry one. Im certainly not angry, or mad or upset. Just trying to point out that responding to everyone who has a problem with “Toxic Positivity” doesn’t help anything.
Like a lot of people I curse when I am upset. Your posts are bullsh#%! You speak like you speak for me. I have already said MULTIPLE times in writing and you have yet to say you were wrong that I was never calling anyone a liar or saying issues didn’t exist. I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE ISSUES, you think I believe all these vehicles are perfect? HELL AGAIN ON ANOTHER THREAD I WISHED YOU LUCK WITH YOUR ONGOING ORDEAL!! So you think I go around and calling people with issues liars since mine are great? I clearly state “I’m confused” why some are having issues and some aren’t. There are way more owners like this (some have issues and some don’t). YOU started this 2nd beef by quoting me and saying I was being condescending. You hate the fact some people have Grenadiers with no issues just admit that at least! Btw, wtf you bringing up PTSD in this argument?! That’s something I have spoke about once and gave advise and phone numbers for people needing help with. That’s never something to bring up or use in an argument!! If you are diagnosed with it and getting treatment you would know this!!! I think I figured it out all now…..if this is you then I totally understand it all now!!! (Didn’t post any facial shots so don’t think it’s illegal)

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Like a lot of people I curse when I am upset. Your posts are bullsh#%! You speak like you speak for me. I have already said MULTIPLE times in writing and you have yet to say you were wrong that I was never calling anyone a liar or saying issues didn’t exist. I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE ISSUES, you think I believe all these vehicles are perfect? HELL AGAIN ON ANOTHER THREAD I WISHED YOU LUCK WITH YOUR ONGOING ORDEAL!! So you think I go around and calling people with issues liars since mine are great? I clearly state “I’m confused” why some are having issues and some aren’t. There are way more owners like this (some have issues and some don’t). YOU started this 2nd beef by quoting me and saying I was being condescending. You hate the fact some people have Grenadiers with no issues just admit that at least! Btw, wtf you bringing up PTSD in this argument?! That’s something I have spoke about once and gave advise and phone numbers for people needing help with. That’s never something to bring up or use in an argument!! If you are diagnosed with it and getting treatment you would know this!!! I think I figured it out all now…..if this is you then I totally understand it all now!!! (Didn’t post any facial shots so don’t think it’s illegal)

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When did I say you called people liars. You really need to come down a little, all I said is you always reply to peoples problems with how “perfect” your trucks are. I’m not even the first one to say it to you today. All I’m trying to convey is that you always respond with toxic positivity when someone has an issue. Why you’re attacking me personally or posting pics of me is totally ridiculous. If you have a problem with my hair or my job well that’s completely strange. You brought up your “life circumstances” I didn’t. So carry on friend. It would just be nice if you stopped comparing your “perfect” trucks every time you respond to someone’s problems.

Why in the world would I be upset people have flawless trucks? I don’t get how we’re talking about this. It keeps coming back to how you respond. Every single time you have to add in how your trucks don’t do it. That is completely disrespectful of the person posting their issue.

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Still welcome for a beer or scotch and lobster. I’m not mad at you in the least
Carry on good sir
 

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Back to ADAS if you don't mind.

There's plenty of threads about HVAC for you to post in.
 

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Anyone on this thread tried just Unplugging the camera? I don’t have my truck so can’t try it. And the loaner doesn’t have ADAS so also can’t try it. Would be interesting to know what happens
 

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Last thing I promise Stu……I just wanted to say @IslandFalconer brought me into this by quoting & replying to my post, which gave me a message. Maybe I shouldn’t have responded but come on it’s me….😉

“Toxic positivity”….what a great oxymoron. So get upset with a guy who is in love with his vehicles and luckily they have zero issues. That’s either hate or jealousy, both are sad.

Ok done…….
 

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I’m finding max heat can be either Freaking Hot! Or Luke warm. What really gets me is if it’s blowing crazy hot, and I turn the knob back one click, it’s cold! Like A/C max cold! Auto seems to sometimes get it back to a more “normal” state. But it’s completely random. The loaner I have now is about the same as my regular truck. Just random.
Mine has had similar issues in the past but for whatever reason, recently it has been better, but not without flaws.

For example: I normally run with temp on full hot, fan on speed 1 (not auto) and set to all feet. When I switch the feet and windscreen defrost, it takes about 5-10 seconds to fully transfer over but in that time it will send cool (not cold) air out the face vents. Once the baffles finish their dance and settle into the correct position, it’s fine, but it doesn’t make sense why I get cold air at all. 🤷‍♂️
 

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The old days are long gone, folks. Men are shaving their chests and wearing skirts; women are getting veneers on their teeth, dreaming of feminine boyfriends who can cook, and opting for silicone enhancements as young as 18.

The 70s—when you could drive with a beer in hand, pubic hair was the norm, and cigarettes were everywhere—are firmly in the past.

We won’t get back to how things were before. The world is evolving, and the choice is simple: adapt or get left behind.
 
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This is what confuses me. I have tried literally every combo you can pick (heat, cold, speeds, manual/auto, recirculating, face/floor, running long time (hour) vs on/off multiple times etc etc) and cannot produce any of the issues some have discussed on here in either of my vehicles. I have 2 friends who bought their Grenadiers this year too and they have tried the same. So between 5 newly purchased Grenadiers none of us (the 2 buddies live in different states & bought theirs from different dealers) can reproduce any of these HVAC issues and trust me we all have tried. We even had a bet between us on if one could make theirs act up the other two would do something silly. I didn’t want to be one of the losers so trust me I tried like hell to make mine act up, but no luck. So it’s so weird how some have these issues and others nothing. 🤷‍♂️
So, does the HVAC keep you cool in the Louisiana summer?
 
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