Should I ? - Wheels

[emax]

Aluminium rivnuts?

Sounds good. But the problem is two different metals. When moisture is added, they form a battery and the flowing current will erode the inferior material. If you screw an iron-based bolt into aluminum, even if it's a rivet nut, the problem surfaces.

This is the old standard enemy of the (real) Defenders.

 

[ECrider]

Sounds good. But the problem is two different metals. When moisture is added, they form a battery and the flowing current will erode the inferior material. If you screw an iron-based bolt into aluminum, even if it's a rivet nut, the problem surfaces.

This is the old standard enemy of the (real) Defenders.

I understood globalgregors was meaning alu rivnuts into alu?? I ie same/same.

I've had many a problem with alu into steel requiring acid baths

 

[globalgregors]

I understood globalgregors was meaning alu rivnuts into alu?? I ie same/same.

I've had many a problem with alu into steel requiring acid baths

Yup, precisely.

 

[Logsplitter]

My understanding is the tyres come with white lettering on one side and black on the other so you can choose which way you prefer

White lettering on the inside for me.

 

[ECrider]

White lettering on the inside for me.

Still undecided on the white lettering. Will run them as delivered until fit my winter wheels/tyres and then have them reversed if needs be at the tyre shop when pick up the muds

 

[grenadierboy]

On the inside I think - will they all come with white on the outside, ask the customer what they want or will the agent handle this?

 

[emax]

I understood globalgregors was meaning alu rivnuts into alu?? I ie same/same.

Yes, I understood what he meant.

But at some point you have to fix the object in question, i.e. use a screw. And that's where it happens, and it could be "contagious" to the surrounding materials. Even if you didn't use a screw but riveted directly, the object being mounted, if it's made of iron, will itself behave like an iron screw. With any luck, the things paint will hold up, but I wouldn't count on it.

 

[Kruegerruda]

Yes, I understood what he meant.

But at some point you have to fix the object in question, i.e. use a screw. And that's where it happens, and it could be "contagious" to the surrounding materials. Even if you didn't use a screw but riveted directly, the object being mounted, if it's made of iron, will itself behave like an iron screw. With any luck, the things paint will hold up, but I wouldn't count on it.

And how ist f.e. the Airline in the back fitted? Just Glue or? Doors? Table in the real door? Seats? The problem alloy-steel-connection is everywhere...?!

 

[grenadierboy]

I really haven't been able to decide and probably won't until I have a car to view but in a perfect world we should be able to remove covers and get into that tail light cavity and yes stainless screws would be optimal, pending on the metal it is going through. If it is aluminum you have to coat the stainless to stop corrosion or rethink...I also need to know if the ladder will be an issue when the door is opened...happy motoring

A few years ago I recall seeing a rear light grill type protector for my MB G W460 that didn't need to be screwed into the rear panel.

I believe the grill somehow clipped into the light surround opening.

I will look for it.

 

[globalgregors]

Yes, I understood what he meant.

But at some point you have to fix the object in question, i.e. use a screw. And that's where it happens, and it could be "contagious" to the surrounding materials. Even if you didn't use a screw but riveted directly, the object being mounted, if it's made of iron, will itself behave like an iron screw. With any luck, the things paint will hold up, but I wouldn't count on it.

This is all well outside my competence… is anodising sufficient to prevent the galvanic interaction, or does there rather need to be some membrane or gasket? I was thinking about this in the context of attaching accesories.

 

[emax]

And how ist f.e. the Airline in the back fitted? Just Glue or? Doors? Table in the real door? Seats? The problem alloy-steel-connection is everywhere...?!

That is correct.

The Grenadier has the same requirements as modern aircraft because of the combination of aluminum and steel. Aircraft (and to some extent the Grenadier) use technologies that are simply not available for private DIY projects. For example, adhesives are used and the aluminum parts are separated from the steel parts by additional layers of non-corrosive materials (di-electric layers), e.g. plastic bushings.

In addition, critical parts in aircraft must be maintained for safety reasons and often they get simply replaced on a regular basis according to a maintenance schedule with adequate safety margins.

So it's a combination of high-tech materials, chemicals and production measures that counteract the problem. But in reality, it's not definitively solved, only mitigated. Or, in the case of aircraft, it is "under control".

For a somewhat more elaborate look (about steel, aluminium and the effects of their electric potentials), please see here.

(it's a mixed German/English article. Feel free to translate to your needs with deepl or google).

 

[ECrider]

damn my balls of steel!

shall have to wear some krypto pants

 

[bemax]

Be careful! If they are made of stainless steel you really shouldn’t wear trousers out of other metal!

 

[DCPU]

A few years ago I recall seeing a rear light grill type protector for my MB G W460 that didn't need to be screwed into the rear panel.

I believe the grill somehow clipped into the light surround opening.

I will look for it.

Easiest solution might be to pick up on the rear screws that mount the light itself. Jokon already seem to do decorative bezels for similar lights that mount this way.

However, my experience with Landrovers suggest that you might save a light lens but damage a light guard and maybe add an impact dent into the body where the guard is mounted. So save a £10 quid lens, damage a £30 guard and cause £80 of damage to the body.

Grenadiers may not dent so easily, and the lights may be more expensive; but the numbers need looking at before going ahead.

 

[emax]

Isn't such a protection rather meant against bushes and branches?

Because driving backwards against a wall or another car will of course damage more than the protector can handle.

 

[bemax]

Isn't such a protection rather meant against bushes and branches?

Because driving backwards against a wall or another car will of course damage more than the protector can handle.

Normally its to show that you are able to drive on a gravel road.

 

[DCPU]

Lugging a Peli case up the ladder, walking round the vehicle carrying a spade, shackle, hi lift jack whilst in slippery mud...

Plenty of real occasions for those who will actually use the vehicle.

 

[bemax]

Lugging a Peli case up the ladder, walking round the vehicle carrying a spade, shackle, hi lift jack whilst in slippery mud...

Plenty of real occasions for those who will actually use the vehicle.

Do not take it to serious DCPU! Of course there are a lot of reasons in favor. by the way not only in the bush!
Today I met a parcel driver whose back light was an aquarium. For a second I thought about buying some goldfish as the Sprinter has quite a big back light unit which was broken in the upper fifth the lower part is transparent and the fish would have had a good view while driving through the city.

 

[Tazzieman]

I'm a steel wheel person. And now , so is Ronny!

 

[Krabby]

White lettering on the inside for me.

100% agreed! But if they come white out it’ll stay until my first tire rotation. I wonder if we’ll get a choice at some point.