Should I ? - Wheels

[Shaky]

The prize is your heir gets to figure out how start a car that has not run in 20 years, has varnish in the tank and carbs and all the rubber was eaten by the alcohol some environmental engineer decided was a good idea to put in fuel

Like many people on here I have owned a lot of different vehicles over the years. I accepted, notchy gearboxes, a variety of clutches, noise, vibration, flapping soft tops, suspension that was different every time you got in and just accepted it. The first time I drove a Subaru it was a massive improvement in every area. I had stepped up from a $40K vehicle to a $55K so I expected an improvement. Then I changed to a Mercedes $92K and it was a whole new world of quality, handling, service and experience. This was the entry level of Mercedes. Test driving a Jeep after that was never going to deliver a good result. Despite the fact the Jeep was $75K the experience was below a Subaru. The dealer experience was even worse. I ended up looking at an MB GLE and because I like quirky vehicles I aimed towards the GLE Coupe. It was $120K at the time. (2020). Totally impractical and didn't meet half my requirements. By 2021 it had gone up to $150K, now you couldn't get one for that price second hand.
A 70 series Landcruiser is a serious 4WD but the driving experience on road is terrible. Not all that different to a Jeep.

Well that is something the Landcruiser 70 series certainly have in common with the original Defender then.

I certainly love both vehicles, but probably the best thing about both of them is how they look over how they drive.

 

[Mtnranger]

I am still undecided where to go with the wheel situation. Alloys wheels are lighter and not as strong but I don’t intend doing any rock crawling or real heavy duty off roading.

The point about the lacquer on alloys is a good point however, they might pit and degrade but salt will also make steel wheels rust faster. So it’s a trade off.

The difference is the quality of the wheels, Nissan alloys used to look 5yrs old after 12 months. I have in the past had alloys that were knackered medium blasted and powder coated and it cost me £50 per corner.

Having had steel wheels on a 4x4 after three years they also could have benefited from having the same treatment.

I will admit that you can hammer a dent out of a steel wheel but you can‘t hammer a crack out of an alloy !!

I used to like the idea of the stripped back utilitarian look of the steels but I now like the look of the more grown up alloy look as well.

Get alloys and if they really go bad in couple years, then you can get steelies

 

[Max]

Get alloys and if they really go bad in couple years, then you can get steelies

Steel vs Alloy. It is interesting about warranties, the chassis/ladder frame is twelve years and as we know salt is used in the UK/EU. Do wheels have the same treatment and the same amount of rocks and salt as the ladder frame thrown at them? This is just dirt road and bitumen driving that I am questioning and I would say no. The rear wheels have more issues but with rotation, things even out, it would be interesting to know the process of protection on the wheels and whether it is anywhere as durable as the undercarriage. It would be in Ineos's interest not to look drab after only a couple of years...happy motoring

 

[Ine05]

17" Alloy, 18" alloy, 17" steel then 18" steel
Which looks best????
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17” steel

 

[DCPU]

I am still undecided where to go with the wheel situation. Alloys wheels are lighter and not as strong but I don’t intend doing any rock crawling or real heavy duty off roading.

Interesting to read that Maxion (the OEM for both the steel and aluminium wheels) now do steel wheels they they claim are 8% lighter than cast aluminium ones.

 

[Max]

17” steel

Good choice, like everybody else, it is yours and mine as well but there is no right or wrong so far...happy motoring

 

[DaveB]

Good choice, like everybody else, it is yours and mine as well but there is no right or wrong so far...happy motoring

Exactly.. The good thing is we all have a choice.

 

[globalgregors]

Correct. But there is a guarantee that the Wrangler/Gladiator are unreliable and unsafe.
At least in Australia.
Chrysler has pulled out of Australia and while Jeep has stayed sales of less than 10,000 vehicles can't be at all interesting for the group.
I couldn't imaging driving one on tar roads for 8 hours, let alone corrugated dirt roads.

C’mon Dave, there’s lots on offer on the other side of ‘reliable’, ‘safe’ and ’comfortable’!

My short wheelbase JK Wrangler was one of my favourite cars. Sure, it had the range of a motorcycle and was probably about as safe. But either living by the beach or bouncing around the Strzelecki with no roof - sunburned, deafened and covered in dust - life was being lived!

Man, I loved that vehicle. If the Grenadier matches it as a driving experience I’ll be delighted.

 

[DaveB]

C’mon Dave, there’s lots on offer on the other side of ‘reliable’, ‘safe’ and ’comfortable’!

My short wheelbase JK Wrangler was one of my favourite cars. Sure, it had the range of a motorcycle and was probably about as safe. But either living by the beach or bouncing around the Strzelecki with no roof - sunburned, deafened and covered in dust - life was being lived!

Man, I loved that vehicle. If the Grenadier matches it as a driving experience I’ll be delighted.

I have owned 3 Suzuki soft tops and one Holden Drover long wheel base soft top and they were great fun.
I wouldn't want to drive 8 hours on the highway in one though

 

[DCPU]

I initially thought the steel wheels looked great and I was happy with them. However after playing around with the configurator, I too have selected the 17” alloys. They just make it look a little classier. Horses for courses though.

This wouldn't look as good with alloys:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1585968972691902464

 

[grenadierboy]

INEOS Grenadier on Instagram: "Which wheels are you selecting for your #Grenadier? Pick yours for real using our configurator tool via the link in our bio."

1,987 likes, 163 comments - ineos_grenadier on January 5, 2022: "Which wheels are you selecting for your #Grenadier? Pick yours for real using our configurator tool via the link in our bio.".

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Slow the speed down.

 

[Camskii]

I havent seen any photos of the PT02 vehicles with the 17 inch alloys. They all seem to be running with the steel rims or the 18 inch alloys.

 

[DaveB]

INEOS Grenadier on Instagram: "Which wheels are you selecting for your #Grenadier? Pick yours for real using our configurator tool via the link in our bio."

1,987 likes, 163 comments - ineos_grenadier on January 5, 2022: "Which wheels are you selecting for your #Grenadier? Pick yours for real using our configurator tool via the link in our bio.".

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Slow the speed down.

I have chosen the 17" alloys with the K02 tyres which sadly they don't show.

 

[Camskii]

I have chosen the 17" alloys with the K02 tyres which sadly they don't show.
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Same. I hate the steel wheels and I don't want the 18s

 

[grenadierboy]

 

[Nocrays]

Hi

I have answered this several times and each time slightly differently.

1. I am about to turn 60 and I am looking for a new car that will last me 20 years
2. I will be moving to the country by the sea in January 2023
3. The new vehicle needs to meet a wide range of needs such as
   1. long drives on the highway and back roads
   2. Visits to Fraser island driving on the sand
   3. gravel and dirt roads in the country, rural areas and national parks
   4. trips to hardware and landscape supplies
   5. picking up international business visitors from airport/hotel
   6. customer site visits at mines, treatment plants, construction sites and chemical plants
   7. Shops, restaurants and general running around.
   8. I like quirky and interesting vehicles only.
   9. Has to look good not round and bland.
   10. Needed to have a bull bar and driving light capability.
   11. Wanted a wagon not a UTE
4. I spent two years test driving all sorts of vehicles and could not find a single one that met most of these needs, until I found the Grenadier on YouTube in February this year.
   1. Landcruiser/Prado - excellent vehicles but as exciting as the midday news.
   2. Landrover new Defender - I doubt will last 10 years let alone 20 and too much electronics and gismo's
   3. Jeep Wrangler/Gladiator- poor build quality, on road performance, safety rating and reliability that Jeep will stay in Australia
   4. Mercedes - GLC/GLE/G Wagon - too expensive and can't do any offroad in reality
   5. BMW same as MB
   6. Old Defender - seriously considered until the prices went stupid.
   7. Grenadier - seems to meet most/all of my requirements

I’m exactly the same Dave except Frazer is but I do heaps of beach driving here in the west.
The only addition is I’ll get a set of steel rims (speedys if I can get them to fit) in addition to the alloys I’ve ordered with some muddies for desert travel.

 

[DaveB]

I’m exactly the same Dave except Frazer is but I do heaps of beach driving here in the west.
The only addition is I’ll get a set of steel rims (speedys if I can get them to fit) in addition to the alloys I’ve ordered with some muddies for desert travel.

I just booked a drive in Perth on the 10th.

 

[grenadierboy]

I just booked a drive in Perth on the 10th.

A drive of what - the Grenadier?

EDIT: Lucky man - I just saw the other post.

A tax deductible trip to drive the Grenadier - can't get better than that

 

[DaveB]

A drive of what - the Grenadier?

Yes.

 

[DaveB]

A drive of what - the Grenadier?

EDIT: Lucky man - I just saw the other post.

A tax deductible trip to drive the Grenadier - can't get better than that

Not tax deductible. Fully paid for by my company including hotels, meals, airfares and hire cars.
Melbourne Monday Tuesday
Perth Wednesday & Thursday then 6am flight back to Sydney then Gold Coast