Robert Pepper review coming

Really respect Robert Pepper. Very much interested in what he has to say.

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[Tazzieman]

When you see the tough terrain people test their cars in , you see many situations where mechanical +/- panel damage is quite likely. If you can afford the car AND afford to wear the repair costs , well I say good onya!
I can't , and my wife won't agree to wanton abuse. Of a vehicle.
That said, there are many tough situations where a calm head and the correct setup will allay any fears.
Agree , an excellent touring vehicle with plenty of scope for proper, if not extreme offroad.
If I wanted to play that manly sport I'd buy a Jeep or something.

 

[Jean Mercier]

Fantastic review, and now I understand why my diff locks didn't "disengage" in my garden lane, and only did when I took the 90° turn to drive on the street! They were disengaged, but the IT system didn't know yet!

 

[Fab]

Now that’s a review worth watching, unlike TFL.
I will have a look at slightly bigger tires.

 

[bigleonski]

To me this car is all about touring Australia.
Towing the van to new places and then using the van as a base as I explore the outlying areas of this wide and sparse country, visiting as many of its landscapes as possible.

All of Roberts videos on the Grenadier prove to me that this is the very car for the job.

X 2

But also remote desert / mountain touring with a fridge and a swag in the back, and rock solid reliability.

 

[grenadierboy]

When you see the tough terrain people test their cars in , you see many situations where mechanical +/- panel damage is quite likely. If you can afford the car AND afford to wear the repair costs , well I say good onya!
I can't , and my wife won't agree to wanton abuse. Of a vehicle.
That said, there are many tough situations where a calm head and the correct setup will allay any fears.
Agree , an excellent touring vehicle with plenty of scope for proper, if not extreme offroad.
If I wanted to play that manly sport I'd buy a Jeep or something.

we are one on this.

Happy to see the Grenadier demolish tracks more difficult than what I expect to take her on

 

[Davman]

we are one on this.

Happy to see the Grenadier demolish tracks more difficult than what I expect to take her on

All with the sidesteps too.

 

[Tazzieman]

Prob needs an extended bash plate , but that's an easy mod

 

[bigleonski]

Interesting that RP knocked 20mm odd off the quoted ground clearance by his assumptions.

I wonder how much (if any) other vehicles clearance were adjusted in similar assessments.

 

[Tazzieman]

Interesting that RP knocked 20mm odd off the quoted ground clearance by his assumptions.

I wonder how much (if any) other vehicles clearance were adjusted in similar assessments.

I wonder if , even after the front spring change to suit the bullbar/winch config , whether the stated clearance is a bit diminished?
Need a stock SW for comparison.

 

[AnD3rew]

I wonder if , even after the front spring change to suit the bullbar/winch config , whether the stated clearance is a bit diminished?
Need a stock SW for comparison.

Well the diff clearance definitely won’t be. Thats entirely down to wheel and tyre

 

[DCPU]

So summary seems very fair:


Some confusion on the winch:

 

[Tazzieman]

Well the diff clearance definitely won’t be. Thats entirely down to wheel and tyre

Perhaps the tyre pressure was down?

 

[AnD3rew]

Perhaps the tyre pressure was down?

Maybe, and the 17” wheel/tyre combo is marginally smaller than the18” maybe the claimed number are based on that one.

 

[DaveB]

Well the diff clearance definitely won’t be. Thats entirely down to wheel and tyre

He has pointed out in other video's that most manufacturers ignore any components that are unsprung when quoting ground clearance.
Particularly diffs, suspension and brakes.

 

[Tazzieman]

I think it is a bit nitpicky. Anyone wanting to regularly tackle gnarly tracks (those deep pocketed dudes) will get bigger tyres , a lift and maybe a sway bar disconnect.
Stock , it coped pretty well with a track I'd be loathe to tackle with a loaded Gren, esp with a RTT.

 

[DaveB]

Anyone want to take a guess at the ground clearance on one of the most popular 4wds in Australia


Below are some snips from a good article written in a motoring mag by Mr Pepper himself back in 2020

Why 4x4 ground clearance isn't the same for all vehicles | Practical Motoring

Ground clearance is a fundamental measurement for 4x4s, but it's not always what you think and the message from car makers can be confusing.

practicalmotoring.com.au

 

[Tazzieman]

Gather a bunch of the latest suspects.
Just setup a flat road and place ever higher concrete blocks/spacers on it until the last vehicle clears it.
Then you have the bragging rights list sorted!

 

[Davman]

Gather a bunch of the latest suspects.
Just setup a flat road and place ever higher concrete blocks/spacers on it until the last vehicle clears it.
Then you have the bragging rights list sorted!

Now if they did that Test at speed, that would be worth watching on the Tube.

 

[Max]

Perhaps the tyre pressure was down?

I so much wanted to know the tyre pressure because of the difference it can make and then at 27:42 mins on the video there is a screenshot showing tyre temp and Kpa...when converted 278Kpa to pounds is 40lbs...back passenger was slightly lower...imagine with a little less air...providing you have the clearance it would be a hard beast to stop...loving it

 

[bigleonski]

Gather a bunch of the latest suspects.
Just setup a flat road and place ever higher concrete blocks/spacers on it until the last vehicle clears it.
Then you have the bragging rights list sorted!

But as we know, real world "ground clearance" is as much about wheel articulation as how far the diff is off the ground. If your vehicle is dropping further into dips, you're getting closer to mother earth overall.
Being live axle you'd think that generally the IG would benefit in that regard as well.