“So these are my comments and observations as well as the information that we were given during the talk. they made it clear that if anyone was filming that the Q&A session would not be as candid and lose.
Overall a very casual event, some people brought along a +1 didn't seem to be an issue. There were about 20 people there. The Grenadier was presented with the bonnet' hood closed, all other doors open. It is a static display.
The vehicle just to see as it the only one in the USA at the moment. It is here for several months on the countrywide roadshow in the USA and Canada. It looked better and in more proportion in the flesh than in renderings or online.Delivery mid 2023 hoping for August, delays due to certification for USA market.130 prototypes around the world testing.5 figures number for reservations held globally.Over 3k USA reservations held.Oct - Nov USA test drives anticipated. USA orders expected to be delivered August 23.UK & Europe deliveries August / September, SA and OZ 4th quarter of this year.Dealerships sales model not direct sale, dealers will be setup by spring of next year in NA earlier in the other markets.Pricing confirmed later this year for the NA market, indicated to be around 75K USD.
Price 4th quarter this year, with a frozen time window only for reservation holders to decide on purchasing or not.
Sadly can’t commit to ruling out dealer price gouging but will try their best to deter.
Speaking to BMW for servicing in NA but can’t confirm at this point.
Service primarily handled by the selling dealer or Bosch accredited service centers as well as some other independents.
Central and South American markets not decided on yet for sales.No diesel for NA market in this generation. Is there the option for Ad Blue tank replacement with fuel tanks, no for USA market but have spoken to some suppliers in Australia as possibility for the future. 1.1 million miles of testing completed aiming fir 1.2 no catastrophic failures.40% of options are on website at the moment, spring this year the full configuration will be published more choice content and flexibility. Essentially the configurator is a preliminary one and the full one will be released int he spring. Some options will not be ready for the initial deliveries and will not be on the configurator, as these become available they will be included online. They will have driving experience centre but not sure where in the USA it will beDriving experiences coming this year to us and Canada , full test drives for the customer. Electrification is in the future and they are looking into it closely.Fuel cell is in the near future partnered with Hyundai and BMW and is the direction they want to go due to the duty cycle of the vehicle.No heated front windshield, just vents and blowers.No heated steering wheel, if you want it then contact them and ask, if there is demand then they will look at it, its a steering wheel just designed for them, not off the shelf unit so some reengineering is necessary, they have raised the issue before but Sir Jim wears gloves. Quoted figures
Towing 7716lbs
Payload about 1000kg but tbc depending on final weightGround clearance 10.4"Length 194"Height 80"Width 84"Interior dimensions are basically locked in 6’4” can fit comfortably
Max speed limited to just over 100mph.
No blackout screen for the safari windows, but there will be a solar reflective tint applied to them.On 33” tires max from INEOS, aftermarket for larger wheel tire combinations and lifts. Pre wired front and rear terminal boxes. For auxy switchgear with controls wired back to the cabin.Housebattery under rear seat. Starting battery in engine bay.Front and rear winch capacity. Regular low octane fuel can be used no problem.Braking same across the board, caliper size and disc etc. Observations
Seats hug well, bolstering fine and comfortable for the 3 minutes I sat, seating position natural, didn't sit in the rear seats, time ran out.
The bottom of the front radiators are in line with the bottom of the tow hooks.Bottom of the rear valence is in line with the bottom of the differential. All of the running gear is tucked up really well Underneath Rear door setup final.
Rear ladder is very close to the rear glazing, maybe 4" clearance, aftermarket protection for the window is the way I'd go.
The overall feel of the Grenadier is one of it being substantial, the nuts and bolts underneath are more akin to commercial vehicles than consumer.
Not sure where the online maintenance instructions stop. Will look into if it covers engine and gearbox etc. Deep sump or extra baffling for engine, don’t know will look into it.
Sorry I don't have more but it was a good event, I'm sure that others will ask more questions, the group I was with spent almost 20 minutes talking about California pricing and options for buying direct from INEOS overseas.
Very glad I went, and now the long wait. Oh, the baby blue Grenadier looks much better in person than online, but thats just my opinion.
Stu”
This is from the transcript I took of the LA event for the 2b tour back in January
In the USA dealer price gouging is basically beyond the direct control of INEOS, they can try and deter by reducing availability of vehicles to offending dealerships and that’s pretty much it.
Obviously the time frames have come and gone but it’s pretty representative overall of what we’re in for I think.
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