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Pickup version spotted today in Graz

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Oiled canvas gets my vote. It can be called the Belstaff canopy edition.
Now I really like the sound of that. You need to be making some calls and getting a small royalty for that.

If you don't, I may do. 😉
 

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That looks good. Just please don't use the plastic canopy material JLR moved to on the old Defender.
The original 'mohair' canvas ones used to shrink, you had to stretch them back out again once they were wet. Aesthetically they aged like fine wine :)

The plastic ones were more waterproof and kept their shape better but got brittle with age/tore more easily. Can't win!
 

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What about using sail cloth for the canvas?
 

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What do they make sail cloth from these days?
 

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Kevlar, carbon fiber, laminated sailcolth.
 

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It would be interesting to know how long it lasts, how durable it would on a vehicle?
 

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Interesting to see Grenny pick-ups loaded on transporter, I wonder where they're going - picture from FB

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From what I read, after you posing the question on what is sail cloth made of these days, High-end laminate sail cloth provides the best option from not allowing overstretch, waterproof/water resistant, cost and durability. Down side is it is heavier but for us that wouldn't matter.
 

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Interesting to see Grenny pick-ups loaded on transporter, I wonder where they're going - picture from FB

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Any indication of what country? Also these look like they are production versions versus test vehicles.
 

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The original 'mohair' canvas ones used to shrink, you had to stretch them back out again once they were wet. Aesthetically they aged like fine wine :)

Were the original ones 'mohair' canvas?

My Lightweight went through a couple of canvasses, but I'd say they were just bog standard heavy duty canvas. I remember seeing the mohair ones, but they were always aftermarket ones supplied by the likes of Exmoor Trim.

I extended the life of mine a few times by applying canvas paint.
 

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It would be interesting to know how long it lasts, how durable it would on a vehicle?
Those (para-)aramid fibres are not very good in resisting UV rays.
 

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From what I read, after you posing the question on what is sail cloth made of these days, High-end laminate sail cloth provides the best option from not allowing overstretch, waterproof/water resistant, cost and durability. Down side is it is heavier but for us that wouldn't matter.
I hope someone from Ineos is listening to you. 👂
 

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Those (para-)aramid fibres are not very good in resisting UV rays.
That's a downer. I think I recall reading on a high end sailing article (might have been the Ineos Americas Cup contender) that they had new sails for every season, but I didn't read why that would be.
 

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Interesting to see Grenny pick-ups loaded on transporter, I wonder where they're going - picture from FB

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Exhaust looks to be station wagon length.
 

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That's a downer. I think I recall reading on a high end sailing article (might have been the Ineos Americas Cup contender) that they had new sails for every season, but I didn't read why that would be.
I am not into sailing. But I know that protection equipment (eg for fire fighting) made of these fibres should not be stored in a space where sunlight can reach it unfiltered. I know of jackets stored in open racks that all had the shoulder (opposed to the light) discoloured from deep blue to a sort of violet. It has been possible to tear the fabric on this spots with one hand.
 

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Interesting to see Grenny pick-ups loaded on transporter, I wonder where they're going - picture from FB

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If they ever decide to make that wheelbase in a single cab-chassis model then I would be real keen. Would make a great base vehicle to mount a custom made camper on the back.
 

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I'd started to think they'd put the Pickup on the back burner... obviously not!
Well the latest official word was it was 18 months down the track. Certainly doesn't look that way. Ineos certainly aren't sharing the story as they did with the stationwagon.

If they ever decide to make that wheelbase in a single cab-chassis model then I would be real keen. Would make a great base vehicle to mount a custom made camper on the back.
I think I've read them saying that's not on the cards... but now they're starting to behave like just about every normal vehicle manufacturer with regard to new product...

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