Only Positive Thoughts Here

[Tom D]

I am starting to wonder that if the cork is well and truly out of the bottle and deliveries are imminent, cars coming off the line now will already have the latest parts and software and will not be held up at the dealers. We might see a flood of deliveries as cars arrive and go through the dealers much more quickly. People further down the waiting list might see their cars at the same time or only shortly after the early birds…

Positive thinking!

 

[Max]

The Ineos Grenadier Grand Parade...coming soon...

 

[Tazzieman]

The Ineos Grenadier Grand Parade...coming soon...

This is why I specced the safari roof.
Busby

 

[Norville]

Edit: I wasn't sure where to put this, but thought it was awesome we got to see the manual at long last and those are good vibes?

I just had to do this after chuckling at page 18 of the manual:

 

[trobex]

The factory at Hambach had not been hit by a Russian missile yet! So production continued and that is great news!!!

Is this being positive???

 

[Stu_Barnes]

Edit: I wasn't sure where to put this, but thought it was awesome we got to see the manual at long last and those are good vibes?

I just had to do this after chuckling at page 18 of the manual:

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This thread needs a bump.

 

[Tazzieman]

I'm alive and healthy.
Don't take things for granted.
The ability to even buy a new car sets us apart from several billions of people on this planet.

 

[Deleted User Account.]

I'm alive and healthy.
Don't take things for granted.
The ability to even buy a new car sets us apart from several billions of people on this planet.

Unless that car is a grenadier.

 

[Tazzieman]

Unless that car is a grenadier.

Ah you're a cynical bastard!
All will be forgotten in the years ahead

 

[Deleted User Account.]

Ah you're a cynical bastard!
All will be forgotten in the years ahead

I'm a plan for the worst, hope for the best kind of bastard.

 

[Tazzieman]

I'm a plan for the worst, hope for the best kind of bastard.

A fair weather optimist , good!

 

[DenisM]

I watched a recent video where the business journo was speaking Sir Jim on the current business conditions generally. Asked about the Grenadier, Sir Jim replied that he was well aware of problems in delivery, that the uncertainty of international factors on supply chains were creating havoc.. e.g. IA has contracts with Ukrainian companies for 58 separate parts in the Grenadier. They are also relying on software suppliers in China....
The fact that they have produced vehicles at all is an achievement.
When you think about the complexity of procuring all the bits from around the globe, assembling the vehicles then shipping them all over the world, fault free... a few more months won't hurt... well that's how I console myself

 

[Deleted User Account.]

Chinese software. Great.

 

[trobex]

Chinese software. Great.

That cannot be true... software suppliers from China??? For a BMW Engine and generally speaking entirely European parts supply??? A late April fools joke OR the real reason the 'software' isnt working... haha. Oh me, are these things trying to rile me up!

 

[DenisM]

That cannot be true... software suppliers from China??? For a BMW Engine and generally speaking entirely European parts supply??? A late April fools joke OR the real reason the 'software' isnt working... haha. Oh me, are these things trying to rile me up!

No intention to rile you Trobex! Heaven forbid! Just relaying what the man said. There is a lot of automotive software development contracted to Chinese companies..... where do you suppose Chinese companies such as those which now own MG, Volvo and many other brands obtain their software?
There are 35 CPUs in the Grenadier. Each has its own embedded firmware and requires an "interface" to be written to enable it to communicate with the main "body" ecu which "coordinates" them all to enable the vehicle to operate. Probably some of those chips come from China..... so they arrive with the specified s/w interface to meet the vehicle requirements.....

 

[Tazzieman]

That cannot be true... software suppliers from China??? For a BMW Engine and generally speaking entirely European parts supply??? A late April fools joke OR the real reason the 'software' isnt working... haha. Oh me, are these things trying to rile me up!

The world is out to get you!

 

[trobex]

That's what the man said. There is a lot of automotive software development contracted to Chinese companies..... where do you suppose Chinese companies such as those which now own MG, Volvo and many other brands obtain their software?

I would expect Chinese owned car companies to obviously develop their own software and the same for any car company. But not a new start up... when your running gear is all European. This seems like a weak link.

EDIT: Gotcha before you edit!

 

[Steve.B]

I would expect Chinese owned car companies to obviously develop their own software and the same for any car company. But not a new start up... when your running gear is all European. This seems like a weak link.f

I would expect Chinese owned car companies to obviously develop their own software and the same for any car company. But not a new start up... when your running gear is all European. This seems like a weak link.

I read that approximately 40% of engineers working in the USA are Chinese, but that the USA is a major exporter of lawyers.

 

[Steveo]

I would expect Chinese owned car companies to obviously develop their own software and the same for any car company. But not a new start up... when your running gear is all European. This seems like a weak link.

Neusoft is Tier 1 supplier of the 'infotainment' system.
It employs over 20,000 people across a broad range of industries.
I think they're a fairly reputable supplier.

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[trobex]

The world is out to get you!

It's why I never had Tiktok or Facebook or Instagram on my phone... or ANY social media.