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you've never driven a grenadier (No)
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you've never experienced death wobble in a grenadier (also no)
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you've never heard of a Grenadier experiencing death wobble (Yes, I recently learned of such a case. Ask DaBull)
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you can't find any videos of grenadiers experiencing death wobble (correct)
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But you can cure the death wobble when it happens. (Exact Center helps prevent the forces that cause death wobble in the first place.
I don't doubt that. I don't doubt that it will happen with modifications, but I think you are muddying the waters of what's actually going on with Grenadiers. (Wasn't our intent. We received several inquires, saw a market, and pursued a similar campaign as we did with the Wrangler crowd)
I also think it's poor form to use death wobble and a dead zone in the steering interchangeably. (Agreed, as they are different things but again, following the campaign we've already run with instead of reinventing the wheel)
What I'd really like to hear is your experience working on large rigs with recirculating ball steering boxes and kingpin solid axles, and what your experience has been comparing them to the ball joint type front ends - especially as it pertains to your Exact Center solution. My personal experience with recirculating ball steering boxes is nil. That is not to say however that someone at my outfit does not. Regardless of what sort of steering box and front axel you have, if it utilizes a pitman arm/drag link, Exact Center would be an added benefit to such steering set up. Exact center doesn't have anything to do with ball joints. I won't know details until I actually have a Grenadier in ours hands.
I ask this because I anticipate you have some first hand experience in this department given the work you've done in the past. I can tell you that I know very little, and think this would be a great opportunity to expand our collective knowledge. I was personally hand picked for this role, and have been spearheading the exact center department since launch. I can also tell you my off-roading/grenadier knowledge is limited. But what I do know is my product, and what its capable of. Because RMI has witnessed it firsthand.
Please take this as an opportunity to speak with less sales jargon, and employ more technical descriptions than Mashed Potato. (So its like this, I'm speaking to a broader audience, on the internet, on a forum for a SUV. I understand RMI's approach may not suit your expectations, however not everyone
wants the 'sales jargon OR technical jargon' for that matter. Those whom are interested are likely to do their own research. I might point our this
Wrangler JL Forum, that is a fountain of knowledge. Come have a sip
I'd also love to hear your technical analysis (including a shock Dyno or other measurements if possible) of what the issue is with the stock damper and how you are solving it. So I cannot compare Exact Center to anything on the market because simply, there ISN'T anything like exact center on the market. We patented the tech/invention so you'd be a little hard pressed to find another tandem gas spring riding on the same guide rod on the market. This is not to say you won't find anther 'return to center' shock/stabilizer. But not similar to ours. In regards to the stock damper, I have zero inclinations aside from the issues I've read about on this forum. We welcome any feedback but again, we won't know until we get a Grenadier in our hands.
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