Letter to Lynne Calder

[Dawid Potgieter]

Please include South Africa in your letter. Same issues here, and I suspect world wide.

 

[255/85]

If we were all asking for the inclusion of specific features I'd like to see the engine oil pressure included on the temperature pane. But we're not so I won't.

I do think the inclusion of this type of info adds to the reliability of and trust in the vehicle which is arguably part of the Grenadier ethos.

 

[Tom D]

I am drafting the letter just now, I am keeping it simple and to the basic points raised earlier in the thread.
If we are successful in opening channels of communication with IA through this letter / petition whatever we want to call it then that would be a better opportunity to raise other more minor issues and suggestions.

 

[Tom D]

OK. Here it is..

 

[PDX_Keith]

Regarding ADAS, she herself promised an update on camera while she was here at the LA Auto Show. Integrity as a cultural value within a complete starts at the top.

 

[Baron von Teuchter]

Well done, thank you for the effort.

My only comment or suggestion would be to expand on the workshop manual with a parts catalogue and exploded diagrams to make part identification and ordering easier - at the moment it is virtually impossible unless the vehicle is at an Ineos partner (like a bodyshop / 3rd party repairer).

 

[Baron von Teuchter]

@Tom D How is best to host this to get the signatures of grenadier owners?

@Stu_Barnes can you confirm number of forum members and number of grenadier owners? Might be good to add factual numbers.

 

[PDX_Keith]

Regarding ADAS, she herself promised an update on camera while she was here at the LA Auto Show. Integrity as a cultural value within a complete starts at the top.

View: https://youtu.be/5VfYOdxlpos?si=_3QRHaXelyp_ADPV
9 minutes 30 seconds in...

 

[Dlucky]

OK. Here it is..

I’ll sign when you have it worked out how to get signatures

 

[CrazyOldMan]

Just a couple of thoughts
I would want to make sure the founders of the forum are comfortable with the wording - it’s not an “official” Forum communiqué, but still . . .
I would take out the litigation point - would try to make this about getting transparency vs hostility
I would not ask for any “guaranty” promise - no corporate attorney would ever agree to this after the fact - it should be more about what kind of service standard they want to set up

 

[Tom D]

Just a couple of thoughts
I would want to make sure the founders of the forum are comfortable with the wording - it’s not an “official” Forum communiqué, but still . . .
I would take out the litigation point - would try to make this about getting transparency vs hostility
I would not ask for any “guaranty” promise - no corporate attorney would ever agree to this after the fact - it should be more about what kind of service standard they want to set up

It’s interesting that you read that as hostile. I tried to write it without hostility, I don’t feel the need to rant. Regarding the mis-selling, here in the UK it’s a big thing. Many banks and loan companies have faced lawsuits recently for mis-selling, and the dieselgate thing has resulted in loads of claims too. I really want IA to succeed as in a way I am an investor. A lawsuit does no one any favours… That said there could easily be one if the manual fails to materialise. I think they should know that. I wont be the one to start it, but someone else might.

I genuinely think that this forum is a massive positive for IA, I really hope that they realise that.

 

[CrazyOldMan]

It’s interesting that you read that as hostile. I tried to write it without hostility, I don’t feel the need to rant. Regarding the mis-selling, here in the UK it’s a big thing. Many banks and loan companies have faced lawsuits recently for mis-selling, and the dieselgate thing has resulted in loads of claims too. I really want IA to succeed as in a way I am an investor. A lawsuit does no one any favours… That said there could easily be one if the manual fails to materialise. I think they should know that. I wont be the one to start it, but someone else might.

I genuinely think that this forum is a massive positive for IA, I really hope that they realise that.

Yeah I got it - but this will be read by their attorneys and it could be viewed as an implicit threat of legal action. I would just leave that bit out - it’s difficult to initiate open dialogue and improve transparency if that is lurking under the surface