I'm left without my Granadier

[Paco Garcia]

I have seen pictures of the flood. It looked terrible.
Have you seen your car? Is it destroyed or just been under water?

Hello Tom, the dealership is not accessible, it is a totally devastated area. After 4 days the workshop manager managed to get there with the help of the UME (Military Emergency Unit) and they only let him take a quick look. He told me that he could not get to my car because there were about a hundred cars piled up in front of it. The car was at the back of the garage and did not look moved or damaged, but there was still more than a metre of water and the water level in the street had reached more than four metres high on Tuesday night. As it was dark, the whole area is without electricity/gas/telephone/communications. He does not know how high the water reached inside the garage, but he did tell me that the door of the dealership had burst, so we have to think that the same level of the street must have entered, and that until they manage to access the area they should remove the hundreds of cars that are in the streets and then take out the more than a hundred cars that are in the workshop (90% new pending delivery, there are Ferraris, Masseratis, Lamborghinis, Bentleys, Aston Martins, Ineos, etc.) will not be able to access the car and see what condition it is in. But you don't have to be very clever to imagine the situation. Regards

 

[Paco Garcia]

Well friends, little by little the unknowns are being cleared up and what I already suspected is confirmed, the car was submerged for several days until the spare wheel was covered, as I had been told it was on the lift but on the ground, if it had been up there nothing would have happened to it, but apparently it had to happen and each and every one of the decisions that were taken made it possible for it to happen , now there is little else I can do but wait and see what response the Consortium/Dealer/Insurance company gives me and based on that see what to do, which at the moment is not at all clear to me.

 

[WanderingSniper]

I realize there is no "upside" to this tragedy. However I know insurance may not cover the car in this case as the companies will be in financial trouble with everything else going on. The lucky part of this is since the car was with Ineos, and not at your house, it was their responsibility to take care of it. Since they obviously failed they are forced to get you a new one.

 

[Tom D]

That’s heart breaking, The wreck will be worth something though. Can you at least get that back?

 

[Paco Garcia]

I realize there is no "upside" to this tragedy. However I know insurance may not cover the car in this case as the companies will be in financial trouble with everything else going on. The lucky part of this is since the car was with Ineos, and not at your house, it was their responsibility to take care of it. Since they obviously failed they are forced to get you a new one.

Unfortunately, as I have already mentioned in the thread, things don't work like that here in Spain. I wish they would. As soon as the central government declares a "Catastrophe Zone", the insurance companies and the civil liability of the affected companies, in this case the Ineos dealer, are inhibited, and it is assumed by "the Insurance Compensation/Guarantee Consortium" which is a state body dependent on the Ministry of Finance. And they and only they are the ones who assess the damages and decide. I hope that since I have had the car for less than a year, they comply with what I had contracted in my policy "Replacement at new value" but for that they first have to declare it as a total loss, and that is where it can screw me up badly if they don't. But anyway, I don't want to make my life miserable, there is no other option than to wait and see, I will update you with the information when I know something more.

Greetings
Paco Garcia

 

[lightning]

So sorry to hear this.
Do you have any update on this situation and what happened with regards to your vehicle?

 

[Paco Garcia]

Hello friends, I have always tried to finish any thread I have opened, and this time it could not be different, as many of you will remember last October 29th the damned Dana left me without my Ineos, after the first blow and the helplessness that comes from losing a car in which you had put so much hope, the harsh reality arrived 5 months of legal battle with the Insurance Compensation Consortium to try to get compensation that corresponded to the price of the vehicle, in the end and after several sentences in my favor, a few days ago (as I say more than 5 months later) I have achieved the goal that I set for myself at the time and at least on an economic level I have recovered the money invested. But all is not good news because during those five months the situation of Ineos in Spain has gone from bad to worse, sales before the end of the year stoppage had been very low (as far as I know about 40 units) and the stoppage situation only made the issue worse, and generated more distrust if possible in the brand, IA's support to collaborating companies has not been helping either and as a result the Ineos market in Spain has sunk even more if possible, as a consequence some of the most important distributors who began this adventure with great enthusiasm from the beginning have disappeared, on the one hand due to low sales and on the other hand the lack of involvement of IA in solving problems (there is a colleague waiting for a roof for more than 13 months, to change the one on his Ineos as a result of a rollover, and Ineos Automotive only says that "it does not have roofs to serve" and that it cannot stop the production lines to manufacture one and the car remains in the workshop without being able to circulate), in my area of Valencia, Quadis, which was the The distributor has left Ineos, and there's no one willing to take over as representative throughout the Mediterranean coast. If the closure of Quadis Barcelona is confirmed, there will only be one distributor left in Malaga, which is more than 700 km from my home. Given this situation and the current price increases (a Trialmaster starts at €98,000 without extras), I decided to buy a Toyota 250, which I'm getting familiar with. For now, I don't mind continuing as a moderator on this forum, although I did ask Stu to consider finding another partner, since I no longer own a Grenadier, but he hasn't replied, so for now, I'll continue here if you'll allow me.

Regards
Paco Garcia

 

[landmannnn]

Hello friends, I have always tried to finish any thread I have opened, and this time it could not be different, as many of you will remember last October 29th the damned Dana left me without my Ineos, after the first blow and the helplessness that comes from losing a car in which you had put so much hope, the harsh reality arrived 5 months of legal battle with the Insurance Compensation Consortium to try to get compensation that corresponded to the price of the vehicle, in the end and after several sentences in my favor, a few days ago (as I say more than 5 months later) I have achieved the goal that I set for myself at the time and at least on an economic level I have recovered the money invested. But all is not good news because during those five months the situation of Ineos in Spain has gone from bad to worse, sales before the end of the year stoppage had been very low (as far as I know about 40 units) and the stoppage situation only made the issue worse, and generated more distrust if possible in the brand, IA's support to collaborating companies has not been helping either and as a result the Ineos market in Spain has sunk even more if possible, as a consequence some of the most important distributors who began this adventure with great enthusiasm from the beginning have disappeared, on the one hand due to low sales and on the other hand the lack of involvement of IA in solving problems (there is a colleague waiting for a roof for more than 13 months, to change the one on his Ineos as a result of a rollover, and Ineos Automotive only says that "it does not have roofs to serve" and that it cannot stop the production lines to manufacture one and the car remains in the workshop without being able to circulate), in my area of Valencia, Quadis, which was the The distributor has left Ineos, and there's no one willing to take over as representative throughout the Mediterranean coast. If the closure of Quadis Barcelona is confirmed, there will only be one distributor left in Malaga, which is more than 700 km from my home. Given this situation and the current price increases (a Trialmaster starts at €98,000 without extras), I decided to buy a Toyota 250, which I'm getting familiar with. For now, I don't mind continuing as a moderator on this forum, although I did ask Stu to consider finding another partner, since I no longer own a Grenadier, but he hasn't replied, so for now, I'll continue here if you'll allow me.

Regards
Paco Garcia

It's a shame that Ineos didn't complete that Bosch service centre deal. The net result being a sparse dealership network and a corresponding sales performance.
Anyway, at least you got your investment back, that's good news.

 

[Manuel4x4]

I'm so glad you got your money back.
There are some great deals on low-mileage cars like the one I bought from dealers these days, but in any case, the Land Cruiser is a very good vehicle (I've had two, a KZJ90 and an HDJ100).
I hope you continue to be a friend of mine on the forum with your Land Cruiser.


Me alegro mucho que hayas recuperado el dinero.
Ahora hay muy buenas ofertas de coches de concesionario con muy pocos kilometros como el que he comprado yo pero en cualquier caso,land cruiser es muy buen vehiculo (yo he tenido dos un kzj90 y un hdj100) .
Espero que sigas en el foro como un amigo más con tu landcruser

 

[Paco Garcia]

Me alegro mucho de que hayas recuperado tu dinero.
Hay algunas grandes ofertas en coches de bajo kilometraje como el que compré en los concesionarios estos días, pero en cualquier caso, el Land Cruiser es un muy buen vehículo (he tenido dos, un KZJ90 y un HDJ100).
Espero que sigas siendo amigo mío en el foro con tu Land Cruiser.


Me alegra mucho que hayas recuperado el dinero.
Ahora hay muy buenas ofertas de coches de concesionario con muy pocos kilómetros como el que he comprado yo pero en cualquier caso, el land cruiser es muy buen vehículo (yo he tenido dos un kzj90 y un hdj100).
Espero que sigas en el foro como un amigo más con tu landcruser.

Gracias Manuel por supuesto, por aquí sigo, y me tienes para lo que necesites. Un abrazo