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Grenadier VS G Wagon

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no the opposite. the g wagon is an amazing vehicle. i just want an actual 4x4 not something that is a luxury car inside a 4x4.
Ok, thank you. I'm looking for a reliable, high-quality tool that is always available. That's why I'm only considering the Professional. Personally, I wouldn't describe the interior as luxury. The silver-coloured plastic of the air vents looks rather cheap to me. Also the imitation leather of the seat covers. Don't get me wrong. Everything is perfectly adequate for my use case. With the Grenadier, I often use the inspection and the locks. But every time I switch off the engine, I'm annoyed that the front and rear locks switch off and I can no longer engage them directly, which can be problematic depending on the surface. I expect better technology from MB. Other little things that I have in the Grenadier should not be there either. At least that's what I would expect.
 

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Do any of you have a current G-Wagon in addition to the Grenadier? I'm considering buying one new and would like to talk to an owner. I am particularly interested in the experience of comparing the two vehicles. So far I've also had my eye on the G580. But I've changed my mind again. It will probably be a G400/450.
We have a G63 that we bought new a few years ago. It’s got about 12,000 miles on it now. I also have a Jeep Wrangler Rubicon we bought new years ago with about 50k on it, a Ford Bronco Badlands with 35” tires we bought new with about 15,000 miles on it, and the Fieldmaster that now has about 3,000 miles on it. I have driven all four on road and off road extensively. The Jeep and the Grenadier have solid axles the other two independent, but all four have front and rear lockers, all fully loaded, and so they’re quite comparable. Here’s my take: G63- solid, well-built, unsurpassed driver visibility and comfort, amazing power, so fun to drive, probably very capable off road but the low profile tires make it good for mall crawling only. Gas range is mediocre. Best car I’ve ever owned. We live in Utah so it works for on-road, snowy conditions, ski trips, etc. The Bronco- visibility not great for off roading, but very capable both on and off road. Comfortable, plenty of power, fun to drive, a bit noisy when taking a mobile call on the freeway due to wind noise. The Rubicon- obviously capable off road but it sucks taking all things into consideration as compared to the Bronco and isn’t in the same realm as the G63 or Grenadier. The Grenadier- solid, well-built, simple, great driver visibility, pretty comfortable, with the Agile steering stabilizer it’s acceptable on road (not as good as Bronco or G63), incredible off-road chops. It’s a joy to drive on a curvy mountain road and even better on a 4x4 road.
 

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My kids also have 4WD vehicles: Toyota tacoma TRD Pro, 4Runner, and 4Runner off-road, & BMW X1. The toyos are good cars, do well off-road, reliable, are better than the Rubicon, but not as strong as the Bronco, Grenadier, nor G63.
 

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l've driven new Defender, old Defender, G-Wagon and Grenadier.

The new G-Wagon is like the Defender but with more attitude.
The Grenadier is like the old Defender but brought up to date and more capabilities on road.

The Grenadier is somewhere between the old Defender and new Defender. lt can't be compared with the G-Wagon. Well, it can, but it's unfair. The target market is completely different.

lt's like comparing the old Defender with the new Defender.

lf you can make any sense of that. l just re read what l wrote, and am not sure l even understand myself.

Oh, and we've also got a 2020 Suzuki Jimny. That's nearer to the old Defender and could be compared with the Grenadier, except the Jimny is about half the size.

I totally understand.
 

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We have a G63 that we bought new a few years ago. It’s got about 12,000 miles on it now. I also have a Jeep Wrangler Rubicon we bought new years ago with about 50k on it, a Ford Bronco Badlands with 35” tires we bought new with about 15,000 miles on it, and the Fieldmaster that now has about 3,000 miles on it. I have driven all four on road and off road extensively. The Jeep and the Grenadier have solid axles the other two independent, but all four have front and rear lockers, all fully loaded, and so they’re quite comparable. Here’s my take: G63- solid, well-built, unsurpassed driver visibility and comfort, amazing power, so fun to drive, probably very capable off road but the low profile tires make it good for mall crawling only. Gas range is mediocre. Best car I’ve ever owned. We live in Utah so it works for on-road, snowy conditions, ski trips, etc. The Bronco- visibility not great for off roading, but very capable both on and off road. Comfortable, plenty of power, fun to drive, a bit noisy when taking a mobile call on the freeway due to wind noise. The Rubicon- obviously capable off road but it sucks taking all things into consideration as compared to the Bronco and isn’t in the same realm as the G63 or Grenadier. The Grenadier- solid, well-built, simple, great driver visibility, pretty comfortable, with the Agile steering stabilizer it’s acceptable on road (not as good as Bronco or G63), incredible off-road chops. It’s a joy to drive on a curvy mountain road and even better on a 4x4 road.
Thank you for your detailed description and the comparison of the different vehicles. It always depends on what you want to do with the vehicle in question. I am happy with my Grenadier. However, the G Wagon would be a better compromise between off-road and highway driving for me. Not with low-profile tires, of course. Pulling heavy trailers on damp ground was no problem at all. Comparable to the Grenadier. There is a big difference on the highway. Heating, ventilation, air conditioning, radio, no noise, simply perfect. I will definitely stay informed.
 
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We have a G63 that we bought new a few years ago. It’s got about 12,000 miles on it now. I also have a Jeep Wrangler Rubicon we bought new years ago with about 50k on it, a Ford Bronco Badlands with 35” tires we bought new with about 15,000 miles on it, and the Fieldmaster that now has about 3,000 miles on it. I have driven all four on road and off road extensively. The Jeep and the Grenadier have solid axles the other two independent, but all four have front and rear lockers, all fully loaded, and so they’re quite comparable. Here’s my take: G63- solid, well-built, unsurpassed driver visibility and comfort, amazing power, so fun to drive, probably very capable off road but the low profile tires make it good for mall crawling only. Gas range is mediocre. Best car I’ve ever owned. We live in Utah so it works for on-road, snowy conditions, ski trips, etc. The Bronco- visibility not great for off roading, but very capable both on and off road. Comfortable, plenty of power, fun to drive, a bit noisy when taking a mobile call on the freeway due to wind noise. The Rubicon- obviously capable off road but it sucks taking all things into consideration as compared to the Bronco and isn’t in the same realm as the G63 or Grenadier. The Grenadier- solid, well-built, simple, great driver visibility, pretty comfortable, with the Agile steering stabilizer it’s acceptable on road (not as good as Bronco or G63), incredible off-road chops. It’s a joy to drive on a curvy mountain road and even better on a 4x4 road.
Off pavement or offroad?
 

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I have always wanted a Galendewagen. Still kind of do BUT not as much anymore.

Extremely happy with my daily driver. Except when I need to go to the airport as our parking garage, terminal, etc is horrendous. I just take a different car.
 
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Not sure if this was already mentioned but the 'regular' Mercedes G-Wagon, the G550 no longer has a "bi-turbo V8" ... Mercedes-Benz has gone to - guess what? - a 3.0L straight-six turbo! Copy cat! - if you want the bi-turbo V8, you have to get the AMG G63, which is 2-3x the price (I mean they have like $30K+ paint jobs on the AMG models. Because gold paint is for the Poors, Gold paint ain't good enough, GOLD paintjobs are just weaksauce, you need $30K+ GOLD son!!!)

And FlyersFan76 is damn right, Unobtanium is some super secret Oakley stuff. As a lifelong Oakley fanboi, I can confirm. It's like really, really, Unobtainable.
 

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If anyone is feeling FOMO about not owning a G-Wagon, if you purchased their $280,000 4x4² (squared), you can't even drive it right now because the rear axle differential can SNAP during normal road use. They issued a stop-sale/stop-drive recall on every single model. That just screams luxury to me. Paying $5,500 a month to look at a pretty brick in the garage doesn't seem like a good deal to me.

 
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Parked beside a Canadian Army G-Wagon today. This vehicle is definitely taller than a regular G-Wagon. My Grenadier has a 2.5" lift and 35" wheels, but this Army G-Wagon looks just as tall, if not taller.
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I gotta tell ya, when the "agrarian" gren was first announced, that's what I hoped it would be.

It seems some cherry took the antiskid tape literally.

Edit: on a side note, you see the weather strip on the G windscreen? I bet if you put that around the Gren, it would save a few windscreens. The protectors people are putting on aren't going to protect that exposed edge, and it don't take much to start a crack on the edge of glass.
 
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